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    Northeast 100 most prominent list

    Presently working on the 770(777) list and while doing so decided to also do the following sub lists:
    1. New England 50 finest which I completed on Smarts(NH) in 2006 on 11th Nov.
    2. Northeast USA 50 finest which I completed on Black (NY) in 2009 on 18th May

    Would now like to pursue those lists up to the 100 most prominent peaks (lists here posted). BTW has anyone completed those lists besides Roy Schweiker for the NE 100 finest (actually he completed the top 150) and Roy, John Thompson, Bob Packard & myself for the Northeast 50 finest? No one has done to my knowledge the Northeast 100 yet, so the race is on!


    Northeast USA 100 most prominent (N.E. + NY – some also add PA & NJ but this changes nothing to the list since the most prominent peak for those states has a prominence of only 1440 ft, thus not even making the northeast 130 list)

    Rang Peak Prom. (ft) Elev. (ft) State County QUAD
    1 Washington 6148 6288 NH Coos Mount Washington
    2 Marcy 4914 5344 NY Essex Mount Marcy
    3 Katahdin (Baxter Pk) 4288 5268 ME Piscataquis Mount Katahdin
    4 Mansfield (The Chin) 3633 4393 VT Chittenden Mount Mansfield
    5 Lafayette 3320 5240 NH Grafton Franconia
    6 Killington 3315 4235 VT Rutland Killington Peak
    7 Slide 3280 4180 NY Ulster Peekamoose Mtn
    8 Sugarloaf 3160 4240 ME Franklin Sugarloaf Mountain
    9 Whiteface 3093 4865 NY Essex Lake Placid
    10 Equinox 3040 3840 VT Bennington Manchester
    11 Giant 2953 4626 NY Essex Rocky Peak Ridge
    12 Jay 2952 3858 VT Orleans Jay Peak
    13 Moosilauke 2932 4802 NH Grafton Mount Moosilauke
    14 Bigelow (West Pk) 2845 4145 ME Somerset The Horns
    15 Carter Dome 2821 4832 NH Coos Carter Dome
    16 Dorset 2820 3760 VT Rutland Dorset
    17 Dix 2789 4823 NY Essex Dix Mountain
    18 Old Speck 2700 4160 ME Oxford Old Speck Mountain
    19 Cabot 2660 4160 NH Coos Stark
    20 White Cap 2604 3654 ME Piscataquis Big Shanty Mountain
    21 Coburn 2497 3717 ME Somerset Enchanted Pond
    22 Greylock 2464 3488 MA Berkshire North Adams
    23 Putnam (Worcester) 2462 3642 VT Washington Stowe
    24 Saddleback 2446 4120 ME Franklin Saddleback Mountain
    25 Santanoni 2408 4606 NY Essex Santanoni Peak
    26 Stratton 2405 3940 VT Windham Stratton Mountain
    27 Kinsman (South Pk) 2398 4358 NH Grafton Lincoln
    28 Shaw 2330 2990 NH Carroll Melvin Village
    29 Snow 2320 3960 ME Franklin Chain of Ponds
    29 The Traveler 2320 3540 ME Piscataquis The Traveler
    31 Black 2280 2640 NY Washington Shelving Rock
    32 Ascutney 2270 3130 VT Windsor Windsor
    33 Kibby 2254 3654 ME Franklin Kibby Mountain
    34 Snowy 2225 3898 NY Hamilton Snowy Mountain
    35 Carrigain 2223 4680 NH Grafton Mount Carrigain
    36 Baldpate (East Pk) 2220 3780 ME Oxford Old Speck Mountain
    37 East 2219 3439 VT Essex Seneca Mountain
    38 Lyon 2212 3820 NY Clinton Moffitsville
    39 Grass 2189 3109 VT Bennington Arlington
    40 Baker 2180 3520 ME Piscataquis Number Four Mtn
    41 Smarts 2178 3238 NH Grafton Smarts Mountain
    42 Cold Hollow 2146 3327 VT Lamoille Cold Hollow Mtns
    43 Hunter 2140 4040 NY Greene Hunter
    44 Ellen 2132 4083 VT Chittenden Huntington
    45 Monadnock (NH) 2130 3150 NH Cheshire Monadnock Mountain
    46 Signal 2120 3360 VT Caledonia Knox Mountain
    47 Big Moose 2116 3196 ME Piscataquis Big Squaw Pond
    48 Algonquin 2097 5115 NY Essex North Elba
    49 Kearsarge 2080 2920 NH Merrimack Andover
    50 Doubletop (North Pk) 2069 3489 ME Piscataquis Doubletop Mountain
    51 Black Dome 2060 3980 NY Greene Freehold
    52 Elephant (SW Pk) 2052 3772 ME Oxford Metallak Mountain
    53 Seward 2021 4331 NY Franklin Ampersand Lake
    54 Osceola 2000 4320 NH Grafton Mount Osceola
    55 Boundary Bald 1992 3620 ME Somerset Boundary Bald Mtn
    56 Hurricane 1988 3677 NY Essex Rocky Peak Ridge
    57 Gore (VT) 1982 3332 VT Essex Norton Pond
    58 Hoffman 1962 3704 NY Essex Blue Ridge
    59 Blue (NY) 1939 3759 NY Hamilton Blue Mountain Lake
    60 Cardigan 1925 3155 NH Grafton Mount Cardigan
    61 Big Spencer 1920 3210 ME Piscataquis Big Spencer Mountain
    62 Camels Hump 1873 4083 VT Washington Mount Ellen
    63 Gore (NY) 1870 3572 NY Warren Gore Mountain
    64 Belknap 1852 2382 NH Belknap West Alton
    65 Saddleback 1848 2998 ME Piscataquis Big Shanty Mountain
    66 Blue (ME) 1840 3190 ME Franklin Mount Blue
    67 Moxie 1823 2930 ME Somerset Caratunk
    68 Adams 1804 3214 VT Addison Warren
    69 East Kennebago 1801 3791 ME Franklin Quill Hill
    70 Bunnell - Blue 1800 3730 NH Coos Bunnell Mountain
    70 Bolton 1800 3690 VT Chittenden Bolton Mountain
    72 Jackson 1798 3568 ME Franklin Jackson Mountain
    73 Plateau 1780 3850 NY Greene Hunter
    73 North Plattekill 1780 3350 NY Delaware Hobart
    73 Bald 1780 3310 VT Orleans Island Pond
    73 Little Spencer 1780 3070 ME Piscataquis Lobster Mountain
    77 Kearsarge North 1758 3268 NH Carroll North Conway East
    78 Crane 1745 3250 NY Warren Johnsburg
    79 Tecumseh 1743 4003 NH Grafton Waterville Valley
    80 Shawangunk 1739 2289 NY Ulster Napanoch
    81 Croydon 1732 2765 NH Sullivan Grantham
    82 Spruce 1726 2416 ME Oxford Mount Zircon
    83 North Turner 1715 3325 ME Piscataquis Katahdin Lake
    84 Long 1711 3661 NH Coos Percy Peaks
    85 Chase 1709 2439 ME Penobscot Mount Chase
    86 High Peak(Kaaterskill) 1705 3655 NY Greene Kaaterskill
    87 Field 1702 4340 NH Grafton Crawford Notch
    88 Kilburn 1700 3881 NY Essex Lake Placid
    88 North Dome 1700 3610 NY Greene Prattsville
    90 Vanderwhacker 1686 3408 NY Essex Vanderwhacker Mtn
    91 Puffer 1670 3451 NY Warren Bullhead Mountain
    92 Debar 1660 3310 NY Franklin Debar Mountain
    93 Kempshall 1640 3362 NY Hamilton Kempshall Mountain
    93 Aziscohos 1640 3190 ME Oxford Wilsons Mills
    93 Ticetonyk 1640 2510 NY Ulster Bearsville
    96 Wakely 1631 3766 NY Hamilton Wakely Mountain
    97 Unnamed 2110 Pk 1620 2110 VT Rutland West Rutland
    98 Mount Everett 1614 2624 MA Berkshire Bash Bish Falls
    99 Pharaoh 1606 2556 NY Essex Pharaoh Mountain
    100 Loon Lake 1600 3330 NY Franklin Debar Mountain
    100 Burke 1600 3270 VT Caledonia Burke Mountain
    100 Vanderburg 1600 1930 NY Washington Whitehall



    Values for prominences & elevations are interpolated

    Data was obtained by consulting the Top 100 Prominence lists for the states of ME, NH, VT & NY
    Ref. Lists of John (maintained by John Kirk) http://listsofjohn.com/index.html

    Data for the top prominent peaks for MA were obtained by private communication from Andy Martin who maintains Prominence Front Runners lists http://www.cohp.org/prominence/records.html according to a tentative list established by Roy Schweiker
    Last edited by Oncoman; 09-01-2010 at 09:47 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oncoman View Post
    No one has done to my knowledge the Northeast 100 yet, so the race is on!
    I have been working on this list very slowly, I got one new peak in 2008 and none in 2009 so even someone starting from scratch could beat me :-)

    I didn't check the posted list, presumably John will do MA before there's any great herd of finishers :-)

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    Thanks for posting this list. I am interested to see that Monadnock - which gives its name to mountain prominence - is not all that high on the list.
    Last edited by Elizabeth; 05-18-2010 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    Thanks for posting this list. I am interested to see that Monadnock - which give its name to mountain prominence - is not all that high on the list.
    Looks like it's 10th in NH!! Considering it's not even on the NH 100 Highest in terms of elevation, top 10 in prominence is pretty good!

    Cool list. Thanks for posting this.

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    Agreed,nice list.Looks like I'm half way there without knowing about this list. Does anyone know if unnamed pk 2110 West Rutand is on private land?
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    For those of us out of the loop, what is the true definition of "prominence"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    For those of us out of the loop, what is the true definition of "prominence"?
    http://www.peakbagger.com/help/glossary.aspx#prom

    This is a good site, by the way -- has a bunch of Prominence lists.

    Also, Wikipedia article on Prominence...

    Roy also had a nice thread illustrating the games you can play with prominence.

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    Last edited by dr_wu002; 05-18-2010 at 01:17 PM.
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    Thanks dr_wu002, that clears it up.

    Now I have a new list to do after the NE115, the Northeast USA 100 most prominent - yay! I am sure my wife will think I am crazy.

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    Here's couple of other interesting points about prominence lists:

    Look at the top 4 peaks on the list:

    1 Washington 6148 6288 NH Coos Mount Washington
    2 Marcy 4914 5344 NY Essex Mount Marcy
    3 Katahdin (Baxter Pk) 4288 5268 ME Piscataquis Mount Katahdin
    4 Mansfield (The Chin) 3633 4393 VT Chittenden Mount Mansfield

    Notice that each one is in a different state, and in fact each is the highest in each state. That's no accident since as discussed above the highest peak in a given range gets the prominence crown. And since there are very deep valleys between the states (HudsonRiver-LakeChamplain-St.Lawrence, Connecticut, Androscogin-Azizcohos-Magalloway) each state more or less has it's own range

    Next look at the next bunch:

    5 Lafayette 3320 5240 NH Grafton Franconia
    6 Killington 3315 4235 VT Rutland Killington Peak
    7 Slide 3280 4180 NY Ulster Peekamoose Mtn
    8 Sugarloaf 3160 4240 ME Franklin Sugarloaf Mountain
    9 Whiteface 3093 4865 NY Essex Lake Placid
    10 Equinox 3040 3840 VT Bennington Manchester
    11 Giant 2953 4626 NY Essex Rocky Peak Ridge
    12 Jay 2952 3858 VT Orleans Jay Peak
    13 Moosilauke 2932 4802 NH Grafton Mount Moosilauke
    14 Bigelow (West Pk) 2845 4145 ME Somerset The Horns
    15 Carter Dome 2821 4832 NH Coos Carter Dome
    16 Dorset 2820 3760 VT Rutland Dorset

    Now you're getting the highest peaks in the smaller ranges, and the peaks still jump around from state to state. Franconia Ridge, the lower Green Mountains, Some of the Adirondaks and Catskill ranges, The Taconics, etc. and so it goes. In fact at this high section of the list there's no two peaks in the same state that are adjacent in the list. That's pretty darn cool1

    Last point: the list by prominence is unambiguous and depends on nothing else other than prominence. So unlike lists of highest peaks, the list by prominence is always the same no matter where you cut it (except for uncertainties in the maps). So if you started at #1 and worked your way down, you'd be hitting the highest prominent peak in each region and you would work you way down to smaller and smaller regions.

    That's one great way to see the country.

    Am I interested in getting back into this game? - maybe!
    Last edited by Papa Bear; 05-19-2010 at 01:06 PM.
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    Agreed; very cool list. For those into county high pointing and have been reluctant to cough up the $50 for Croydon (#81), perhaps now one can justify that cost by satisfying two lists. But, watch out for the wild boar on Croydon. Six of New Hampshire's 10 county high points but only 10 of the 48 NH4s appear on the NE 100 prominence list, which supports Papa Bear's keen observation.

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    very interesting.......

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    Pierre -

    As a fellow Prominence aficionado, I thank you for posting the Northeast Hundred Most Prominent list.
    It's a noble list, head and shoulders above the several Hundred Highest lists with their 200 and 300 foot col requirements.
    I have 81 of the 100 now which means, at my pace, I'll finish long after you do. Maybe even after Roy!
    BTW, I believe there are at least 4 finishers of the Northeast 2k Prominence list including Roy, me (john thompson), yourself, and Bob Packard.
    And at least 9 have finished the New England "finest fifty" Prominence list; Arthur Josephson, Roy, Richard Garland (Papa Bear), Nate Parsons, yourself, me, Bob Packard, Jim Frey (buckyball1), and John Person.

    I'd love to be there for your 770 finish!

    jt

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    Rectification

    Have not yet completed Northeast 2K prominence list as I am saving Black Dome for my final 770 (777) peak. Thus should simultaneously complete 8 lists on that long awaited day, including Northeast 100 prominent; but for now it's only a dream at least 6 years away at the rate I am going & provided my health holds out. So Bigmoose you stand a very good chance after all of being #1 finisher of Northeast p100.
    Last edited by Oncoman; 05-25-2010 at 10:27 AM.
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