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    Flat Mtn Pond and McCrillis Trails to Whiteface question

    Has anyone taken this route to Whiteface? Are the trails easy to follow or are obscure in spots? Thanks.

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    I did a counterclockwise loop of McCrillis Path, Dicey Mills, Tom Wiggins, Blueberry Ledge, McCrillis Trail and Flat Mt Pond a few weeks ago. No problem following the trail. The crossing of the Flat River can be very difficult in high water. Pay attention on Flat Mt Pond Trail where the trail goes right off the road. Except for the Blueberry ledge Trail section, did not see anyone all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JToll View Post
    I did a counterclockwise loop of McCrillis Path, Dicey Mills, Tom Wiggins, Blueberry Ledge, McCrillis Trail and Flat Mt Pond a few weeks ago. No problem following the trail. The crossing of the Flat River can be very difficult in high water. Pay attention on Flat Mt Pond Trail where the trail goes right off the road. Except for the Blueberry ledge Trail section, did not see anyone all day.
    What was the parking like at the trailhead? Did you park at Flat Pond and road walk to McCrillas Path? Looking at your loop on satellite view and it looks like nothing is there for parking. Loop you did sounds like a fun hike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    What was the parking like at the trailhead? Did you park at Flat Pond and road walk to McCrillas Path? Looking at your loop on satellite view and it looks like nothing is there for parking.
    It looks like nothing is there for parking because there is none.

    McCrillis Path starts up off a driveway on private land, so the parking is 3/4 mile away at Flat Mtn Pond. The road walk is beautiful through the farm land, though.
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    With fresh leaves down, the lower woods on the McCrillis Trail might be hard to follow the tread. The McCrillis Path was decently well marked as I recall. The road walk was fairly pleasant too. Beautiful loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJsName View Post
    With fresh leaves down, the lower woods on the McCrillis Trail might be hard to follow the tread. The McCrillis Path was decently well marked as I recall. The road walk was fairly pleasant too. Beautiful loop.
    Agreed, regarding the obscuring of the tread on the McCrillis Trail, and the beauty of the loop overall. The last time we did the McCrillis Trail a year or so ago, it was in the fall and we didn't have any trouble following the trail. A couple of times, we had to stop for a moment and pay attention to figure out where the corridor headed, but no real issues. It's a route less-often-taken than the typical up-and-back of the Blueberry Ledge variety, but much more interesting, in my opinion. And quieter. Go for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDawg View Post
    It looks like nothing is there for parking because there is none.

    McCrillis Path starts up off a driveway on private land, so the parking is 3/4 mile away at Flat Mtn Pond. The road walk is beautiful through the farm land, though.
    I was referring to Flat Pond Trailhead. That was why I asked if he road walked to McCrillis Path. Guess I didn't make that clear. Doesn't look like a lot there either on satellite. Does the Flat Pond Trailhead have an actual lot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    I was referring to Flat Pond Trailhead. That was why I asked if he road walked to McCrillis Path. Guess I didn't make that clear. Doesn't look like a lot there either on satellite. Does the Flat Pond Trailhead have an actual lot?
    Affirmative.

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    Flat Mountain Pond has a large parking lot off the left side of the road. Room for at least 10 cars and a kiosk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JToll View Post
    Flat Mountain Pond has a large parking lot off the left side of the road. Room for at least 10 cars and a kiosk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JToll View Post
    Flat Mountain Pond has a large parking lot off the left side of the road. Room for at least 10 cars and a kiosk.
    Excellent. Thanks.
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    Thanks for all the help. I think I'll give it a try this fall. I did Blueberry Ledge a few years ago and also came over from the Tripyramids via the Kate Sleeper Trail and then went down the Downes Brook Trail. This will be something different.

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    A bit late to the party but...

    I'm the maintainer for McCrillis Trail and I might be biased but think it's a great alternative route up Whiteface. Even on a beautiful Saturday in summer I only see 1-4 people maximum all day. It's 5 miles from the Flat Mountain Pond Trailhead up to the summit of Whiteface but it's generally a gentle meander through the woods. Definitely don't try it after a heavy rain since, as aforementioned, the stream crossing on Flat Mountain Pond Trail can be tricky.

    I'm working on giving some more definition to the open woodlands section of the trail but since it's in the wilderness, I try not to be heavy-handed about it. It's a work in progress. The rest of the trail is lovely if a bit muddy in a few sections and steep once you get into the softwood in higher elevation. I always like hearing what people think about the trail (and its various issues)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBQeel View Post
    A bit late to the party but...

    I'm the maintainer for McCrillis Trail and I might be biased but think it's a great alternative route up Whiteface. Even on a beautiful Saturday in summer I only see 1-4 people maximum all day. It's 5 miles from the Flat Mountain Pond Trailhead up to the summit of Whiteface but it's generally a gentle meander through the woods. Definitely don't try it after a heavy rain since, as aforementioned, the stream crossing on Flat Mountain Pond Trail can be tricky.

    I'm working on giving some more definition to the open woodlands section of the trail but since it's in the wilderness, I try not to be heavy-handed about it. It's a work in progress. The rest of the trail is lovely if a bit muddy in a few sections and steep once you get into the softwood in higher elevation. I always like hearing what people think about the trail (and its various issues)!
    Thanks for your work! We hiked it last year and the only issues we noticed were theorhetical. If there was snow, the top section might be hard to follow. If the trail got a lot more use, then the steeps would have some erosion issues. I loved it as a loop, descending Blueberry Ledge (now that the McCrillis Path is reopened).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBQeel View Post
    I'm working on giving some more definition to the open woodlands section of the trail but since it's in the wilderness, I try not to be heavy-handed about it. It's a work in progress. The rest of the trail is lovely if a bit muddy in a few sections and steep once you get into the softwood in higher elevation. I always like hearing what people think about the trail (and its various issues)!
    We love the trail and now use it as our alternative to the busier Blueberry Ledge route. We consider the steepness of the softwood sections a feature, not a bug.

    Thank you for working on this.

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