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    Quote Originally Posted by hikerbrian View Post
    About 2/3 through the book, and I have to say, I'm not sure I've ever read a book where my experiences - decisions I've made, places I've been, inner and outer struggles I've fought - intersect so many times with the authors' writing. I'll post some thoughts when I'm done. So far, this is the most complete and accurate assessment I've ever read of hiking in the Presidentials in winter. Very happy to have purchased. Well done, Ty.
    I agree, this is an exceptional read, treading the line between emotion and reason extremely well.
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    I finally got to read this book and can only echo all the praise for Ty Gagne's work. The story was very well presented in a straightforward and logical progression with virtually no editorializing. Hats off to AVSAR, MSR, and all the people involved in the rescue attempt and the eventual recovery. You people are amazing.

    The one thing that surprised me about the story was Kate's apparent failure to refuel (eat) and rehydrate all the way up Madison. It's easy to second guess someone's mistakes after the fact and knowing the outcome as we do. She may have been in top physical condition but trying to ascend Adams in a white-out blizzard with hurricane force winds was just too much for anyone. I found myself imploring her to turn back and retreat to Madison Hut and get below tree line. I wish she had.
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    Ty Gagne the author, is putting on a presentation at REI on Nov. 1st. I'm signed up and looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra View Post
    Ty Gagne the author, is putting on a presentation at REI on Nov. 1st. I'm signed up and looking forward to it.
    Which REI?

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    Interesting read... here ....http://nhpr.org/post/risk-decisions-...tials#stream/0

    Know I know why and couldn't understand why in this day and age the GPS signals were all over the place.. me being a Master USCG licensed Captain who used GPS heavily since 1996 on the water finding small wrecks the size of a VW Beetle to hiking our mountains with it running all day recording the data of the hike knew there was a reason for the signals being off but couldn't find out the type of Beacon she used.
    But as the previous poster said.. the winds etc is what killed her..not listening to the weather forcasts. Same when for that Ranger from Mt. Monadnock. He didn't listen either. I saw that one coming days before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCaper View Post
    Interesting read... here ....http://nhpr.org/post/risk-decisions-...tials#stream/0

    Know I know why and couldn't understand why in this day and age the GPS signals were all over the place.. me being a Master USCG licensed Captain who used GPS heavily since 1996 on the water finding small wrecks the size of a VW Beetle to hiking our mountains with it running all day recording the data of the hike knew there was a reason for the signals being off but couldn't find out the type of Beacon she used.
    But as the previous poster said.. the winds etc is what killed her..not listening to the weather forcasts. Same when for that Ranger from Mt. Monadnock. He didn't listen either. I saw that one coming days before.
    Thanks for the link to the NHPR radio show. I was shaking my head at the people hiking Franconia Ridge yesterday in jeans and cotton t-shirts. Now it makes sense. It was pretty cold on the ridge and I was still wearing gloves and my hooded fleece pullover on the descent off Lafayette. People wearing shorts and t-shirts were headed up from Greenleaf hut. One woman commented that it must be much colder up there. I agreed it was. Within a few minutes, I was taking off my gloves, hat and fleece. I was amazed at the number of people hiking up with no packs, no food and a 20 ounce water bottle in their hands. Too close to Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCaper View Post
    couldn't find out the type of Beacon she used.
    See post #20 of this thread: http://www.vftt.org/forums/showthrea...l=1#post440884

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan View Post
    Which REI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra View Post
    Reading, MA
    Requires signing up, but it is full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCaper View Post
    ... knew there was a reason for the signals being off but couldn't find out the type of Beacon she used. ...
    Bloomberg's "The Trader in the Wild" article, published in 2015, identified the device (as well as other items she had).

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...r-in-the-wild/

    She had a satellite phone and a GPS device that would record her movements. And she had a gizmo Farhoodi had bought and insisted she take even though she couldn’t imagine using it and thought it was a waste of money—an ACR *ResQLink *personal locator beacon (PLB), which Farhoodi had registered with the federal authorities that monitor all personal locator beacons in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra View Post
    Ty Gagne the author, is putting on a presentation at REI on Nov. 1st. I'm signed up and looking forward to it.
    I get that writing a book about the circumstances surrounding Kate's death is reasonable and informative.

    But does anybody else besides me think it a bit ghoulish to have a roadshow about the event and profit from this woman's tragedy?

    Ty's activities just give me an uneasy feeling....

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    I attended a book signing and presentation by David Breshears, and it was centered around the 1996 Everest tragedy. He's a writer, looking to make money. It's published by a publisher, looking to make money.

    I don't see it any different than other books that happen to have a tragedy as the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisB View Post
    I get that writing a book about the circumstances surrounding Kate's death is reasonable and informative.

    But does anybody else besides me think it a bit ghoulish to have a roadshow about the event and profit from this woman's tragedy?

    Ty's activities just give me an uneasy feeling....

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    That's a fair question. I have two thoughts, in addition to sharing some level of unease with you: first, where there's a market there will be a product. People want to know what happened, and they (myself included) are willing to pay real money for information on how this happened. It's not much different than Not Without Peril, which has got to be one of the best-selling northeast-hiking-related books ever written. Similarly, as I understand it, the 'accidents' section of the Appalachia Journal is quite popular. Of course there's also a vast related literature from outside the northeast: Into Thin Air, Into The Wild, Touching The Void, etc etc etc. Ty is uniquely qualified to analyze this particular tragedy, and there's broad interest. It feels reasonable to me for him to publicize/market his work. It's good work. Second, Matrasova's passing was a result (IMO) of a unique combination of a highly motivated and fit individual with little relevant experience setting out in exceptionally poor conditions. It's not unreasonable to think others will follow in her path, as others came before her. Providing an analysis of how these factors contributed to her death does serve some public good. So all in all I don't have a problem with what Ty is doing.
    Sure. Why not.

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    Ty is not the first and probably nor the last making a buck off this unfortunate incident. Had this same event occurred without the boost of attractive female with an unusual backstory from a large media market we wouldn't have seen all the glossy articles (part 1 and 2 no less) Rather at best it would have faded quickly with maybe a chapter in Not Without Peril 2 (or the AMC lookalike).

    Based on a few discussions over the years with local published regional authors, the profit to the writer coming back from the publisher is minimal at best. The best way to make a buck is that the author gets the chance to buy books at cost and they book local speaking events where they sell signed copies after the talk. Some prolific local authors cut out the middleman and started their own publishing firm and Ty's book is print to order which cuts out a middleman but most likely doesn't really increase return to the author It also helps if you hook in plenty of local minor celebrities who are mentioned in the book as that increases the local buzz which increases sales. If the author is really lucky,the book breaks out of the regional book category and goes national. I have no doubt that someone is already shopping this story for a potential movie vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisB View Post
    I get that writing a book about the circumstances surrounding Kate's death is reasonable and informative.

    But does anybody else besides me think it a bit ghoulish to have a roadshow about the event and profit from this woman's tragedy?

    Ty's activities just give me an uneasy feeling....

    cb
    Mountaineering (technical climbing in particular) has a long history of analyzing accidents in order to improve future safety*. While some may find the current emphasis on this particular event ghoulish, it is also part of the overall process of preventing similar future accidents. Many other accidents have been analyzed with similar goals although with a bit less fanfare. (Some other accidents have also received a large amount of publicity. Eg the climbers stranded on the north side of Mt Hood in 2006 and the deaths of 8 climbers on Mt Everest in 1996.)

    * See, for instance, the accidents section in Appalachia published by the AMC and Accidents in North American Mountaineering published by the American Alpine Club.

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