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Papa Bear
06-05-2004, 04:29 PM
I just got back from a very rewarding week in northern Vermont and over the course of 6 days I climbed 6 peaks. Four were NEFFs, Two were CHPs (of which one was also a NEFF) and one was an M.

After a gorgeous Memorial Day weekend, the weather was wet from Tuesday till Thursday, but so what. Here is what I managed for each day:

Sunday: Donovan's Red
Monday: Long Trail Brown
Tuesday: Long Trail Amber
Wednesday: Coke (sorry!)
Thursday: Otter Creek
Friday: Gracies Amber (as only served at Gracies in Stowe)

What? Oh yeah, the peaks. Well I did say six pack. So here are the peaks:

Sunday: Battery Hill, Burlington. Elevation 300', prominence 0', distance 26.2 miles, #15 on my M list
Monday: day off
Tuesday: Gore Mountain, Avery's Gore. Elevation 3332', prominence 1994', distance 7.6 miles, #26 on my NEFF list.
Wednesday: Worcester Range HP (Mount Putnam), Stowe (with Meo). Elevation 3642, prominence 2472', distance 8.6 miles, #27 on my NYFF list.
Thursday: #1 Mount Butterfield, Orange (with Tramper Al and Denis). Elevation 3167', HP of Orange County, distance ~2 miles bushwhack plus 2.2 miles road walk in.
Thursday: #2 Signal Mountain, Groton (with Tramper Al and Denis). Elevation 3360', prominence 2140', HP of Caledonia County, distance ~ 2 miles bushwhack plus 2.4 miles road walk out. # 28 on my NEFF list.
Friday: East Mountain, East Haven. Elevation 3438', prominence 2227', HP of Essex County, distance 8 miles. # 29 on my NEFF list.

Total distance on foot: 59 miles.
Total distance driven: 604 miles.

PS: There were virtually no bugs! I think I got all of two bites, both at the campsite Wednesday night. The mountains and trails were bug free!

Here's (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june) some pictures.

Still chasing those boring 4Ks, 46ers and HHs? See what you're missing! Individual reports to follow.

Pb

Mohamed Ellozy
06-06-2004, 06:14 PM
PB,

Saw your summit entries on Butterfield (Tramper Al forgot to sign the register, we wondered what had happenned) and Signal (OK, he was with you!). Did he join you for East?

Our group did all three over the weekend, I am finished with the Vermont CoHPs minus Grande Isle. Reports to follow.

Papa Bear
06-06-2004, 09:06 PM
May 30th: Battery Hill (300'), Burlington, Vermont

We drove up to Burlington on Saturday the 29th in beautiful weather and not much traffic. When we finally got onto Route 7 north of Vergennes, what do we see but a large male moose standing under a tree on the side of the road! Great sighting.

We got situated at our hotel, and 6 of us had a grand dinner at Boves in downtown Burlington. Huge amounts of good food, cheap. Spaghetti and meatballs is their specialty. Check it out when you're in Burlington.

The hotel provided a 6:30 AM shuttle bus to the "trailhead" (also known as the "starting line"), and we got there in plenty of time for the group start at 8:00 AM. Did I mention this was a group affair with about 1000 participants? And support: water and food along the route. No packs. Just running shoes and shorts and singlets.

You should be getting the idea this was not your normal sort of hike. In fact given the mileage it was literally a marathon of a trek.

The start was delayed 5 minutes but we were off at 8:05 and I got into an 6 MPH pace up Pearl Street and along Church Street and into South Burlington. We looped back and then took a long traverse of the Northeast Connector and then once again back through Burlington center. The terrain was smooth and by hiking standards flat as a pancake for the first 15 miles. Then the big hill was surmounted. All of 200' of vertical elevation gain and there is was the summit of Battery Hill. The emotional high point of the trek was actually at the base of the hill where a 40 piece Japanese drumming group literally pushed us up the hill.

But this was not the end of it. No, there was another 11 miles to finally get out to the finish at the waterfront park in Burlington. I was getting pretty beat by around mile 20, but held my pace pretty well and finished amid a tumult of people. Where did all these folks come from anyway? My total time was 4:18. Not bad, but I should be better next time!

After it was all over I climbed up to Smokejacks (does this hiking never end?) on Church Street for a well deserved meal of French toast and of course, beer,

Distance: 26.2 miles, Elevation gained: 400'

(By the way, this hike is also known as the Vermont City Marathon :cool: )

Papa Bear
06-06-2004, 09:30 PM
June 1: Gore Mountain (3332'), Averys Gore, Vermont

Gore is in the far northeast corner of Vermont in an area known as the Northeast Kingdom. This is a largley undeveloped and somewhat depressed area whose major industry is logging. The mountain is about 6 miles south of Canada and 12 miles west of the New Hampshire border.

The day started with heavy rain. I was planning to climb Cold Hollow Mountain, about 50 miles southwest of Gore. Cold Hollow is a bushwhack and I was apprehensive about trying it alone in heavy rain. I drove north on Route 100 from Stowe starting around 6:00 AM and stopped for breakfast at Morrisville. When I got to the turnoff towards Cold Hollow at Route 118 in Eden, I decided to abort Cold Hollow and continue north and hike Gore which should be an easier rainy day hike.

One problem was that my DHG was safely stowed in my motel room in Stowe. The other problem was that Gore was not particluarly close to Cold Hollow. So I went up Route 100 and then east on Route 58 to Orleans. I asked at a convenience store in Orleans where I might find an outdoors store to buy another copy of the DHG. I would never find the trailhead without it. I was directed to Newport about 15 miles north off of Route 91. This was not turning out to be an optimum driving route! I got to Newport a little after 8:00 and waited nearly an hour for the "Great Outdoors" to open at 9:00 AM. When it opened (on time) the man said he didn't have the book, but try the book store down the block. Sure enough they had the book, and I was off again east on Route 111 and north on 114. I found the trailhead on the second pass and low and behold, about 4 hours and 86 miles from Stowe, I was ready to start my hike.

The trail is well described in the DHG. The first section is rather easy and flat with some beaver meadows and several old woods roads. There was an old piece of machinery about a mile up the trial and I wondered how and by whom such a piece of junk got here. After a stream crossing at about 1.5 miles, the trail went through some young forest which had evidently been cut over 10 years or so in the past. Here the white blazes dissapeared and were replaced by orange surveyor's tape hanging on trees. This threw me off at first. I thought I had lost the trail and was on a snowmobile route. I backtracked to the last blaze (near the stream crossing), but sure enough the orange tape was all there was. I also realized that this was clearly constructed as a trail with several puncheons. Eventually the trail reentered a more mature forest and the white blazes returned. We crossed two major logging roads and then the trial got rather steep and entered a spruce/fir forest. It was rather remote and idyllic in the fog and rain, and the uppermost section was actually rather easy going.

I crossed a few easy rock slabs and soon found myself at the summit area which was a small clearing with the foundations of a long gone fire tower and a still habitable fire warden's cabin. Inside, beside to moldering matresses on a bunk bed, was a glass 3000 footer register. On the first page was the inscription "Cannister placed by Dennis Crispo 14 May 1988". Way to go Dennis. There were no pages left to write on. The last entry was from 1998. Newer entries seemed to take the form of grafitti all over the walls. I donated a few pages and added my name and had a bite to eat. It had taken just over 2 hours to reach the summit. However the mist was turning back to rain and I was getting chilled so I started down without much delay. After a few minutes I put on gloves and the I felt much better.

The way down was uneventful and by the time I reached the car, the rain had stopped. My round trip time was 4:02.

Since it was still early in the day, I took the long way back (again!) and scouted out the woods roads leading to Cold Hollow from the town of Belvidere Center and thence back to Stowe. In all I had driven about 190 miles for the day!

Distance hiked: 8.0 miles (including some backtracking), Elevation gained: 2220'

Here's (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june) some pictures.

Pb

Papa Bear
06-06-2004, 11:29 PM
June 2: Worcester Range, Worcester and Stowe, Vermont
Range High Point (Mount Putnam) (3642')

Still recovering from Tuesday's long rainy trip up to the Northeast Kingdom, today I could sleep in since the trail head was but a mile from my motel in Stowe and I had agreed to meet Meo at 9:00 AM. I had scouted out the two trailheads (Stowe Pinnacle trail and Waterbury Trail) on Monday when the sun was shining and got some pictures of the range from below, so I was ahead of the game. I had breakfast an McCarthy's in Stowe and got to the Pinnacle Trailhead about 8:50, and there was Meo, just 2 1/2 hours from Montreal waiting for me. It was good to see him again. We last hiked together on Mendon and Pico Peak in the rain almost a year ago. Well I guess for old times sake it was raining again today. We followed the directions from the DHG and found them very accurate and helpful.

We left his car and got into my rented SUV and drove the 5 miles or so on the dirt roads to the Waterbury Trailhead. The rain was now coming in earnest.We saw a guy with a pickup truck at the parking lot and he was impressed that we would go out in such weather. He was piling flag stones into his truck which he said came from a quarry down the way and the owner had said he could take what he wanted. Whatever ...

We got into our rain gear and started up the trail to Hunger Mountain at 9:25. This is a fairly typical steep trail over rock ledges - made more slippery in the rain - with a few trees down. I assume Spring cleanup on this trail has not happened yet since mud season was just now over. Since there was no views this trail was less enjoyable than it should have been. Sometime around 10:30 we reached the junction with the trail to White Rock, and after a short discussion we decided to check it out. The sign said .6 miles. Well we hiked down and down and down and we saw nothing but more down in front of us. So after about 15 or 20 minutes we concluded that this was all a conspiracy and there was no such thing as White Rock, so we gave up and returned to the Waterbury Trail. I later checked the map and it surely does show White Rock with a rise of about 100' from it's col, but for us all we can say is "Where the Hell did White Rock go?"

Back on the regular trail, we made it to the clouded in summit of Mount Hunger about 11:35 and took a few pictures. We sat down for a snack and then got moving along the Skyline Trail. This trail, which follows the ridge line all the way to Mount Worcester, a distance of about 9 miles. It is still soft: the moss and top soil has not eroded away as in most trails and I assume it gets little traffic since a car spot would be required to get from one trailhead to another. As we moved along the clouds started to gradually break and we got glimpses of sunshine in the valleys below. The trail itself had a few blow downs and the inevitable mud and puddles. But somehow they were clean puddles and clean mud. Just natural indentations filled with rain water. Not ruts eroded by years of overuse. It was a lovely trail.

We reached a view point towards the west and around 1:35 we reached the high point of the ridge. My altimeter showed two spots as the highest, both at 3700' (I didn't calibrate the device today and given the weather one would expect it to read high). The second one was the official point shown on the topo map, and it was about 5 yards off the trail and marked with surveyors tape. This is an unnamed peak but is locally known as Mount Putnam. We took a few pictures and continued on down a short distance to the intersection with the Pinnacle Trail, which would bring us back to our car.

The Pinnacle Trail was obviously the most used trail we would see today and had lots of muck and slippery slopes. I tend to go slower on this type of trail going down than going up, and today was no exception. We tried to figure out when we crossed Mount Hogback, but due to it's low prominence and the route of the trail we never did get a sense of where that peak was, or even if there was a peak at all. The map shows a slight prominence of maybe 40', but you couldn't prove it by us.

Stowe Pinnacle is another story. Although at around 2640' it is some 1000' lower than the high point, it has the best views of the whole route due to its rocky summit and its position off to the side of the range. The weather had substantially cleared when we got there and the views were awesome. Across the valley stood Mount Mansfield with its head in the clouds and to the south was Camels Hump. Behind us we could see the ridge to the north ending at Mount Worcester and isolated from the ridge Mount Elmore. Meo and I agreed we would come back here and do the whole Skyline Trail on a clear day. I would recommend this to anyone.

And now for the first time today, we saw some other people. Two couple were hiking up to the Pinnacle and a solo woman down near the bottom was trying to keep the mud off her clean tennis shoes! When we saw her we knew we were near the parking lot. We made it out about 3:55. We wondered why this 8.6 mile trip (including our unsuccessful search for White Rock) had taken us 6 1/2 hours. Maybe the rain, maybe the slippery rocks. Or maybe it was just Meo slowing me down :D:D:D.

My "post marathon legs" had held up well. The only soreness was on the down slopes where there was a bit of soreness in the quads above the knees, and some soreness outside the knees. This normal early season reaction to a good hiking day was not troublesome. Meo had a Presi Traverse schedule for the coming Saturday, so today was just a warm-up for him.

Meo had to go to work the next day so we didn't not have the opportunity to put down a celebratory cold one, and for my part I had to drive east where I would stay for the night a Ricker Pond campground in preparation for tomorrow's bushwhacks.

Rain or no rain, it was a great day on a beautiful trail. We'll be back.

Total distance hiked: 8.6 miles, Elevation gain: 3370'.

Here's (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june) some pictures.

Pb

Papa Bear
06-07-2004, 09:57 AM
June 3: Butterfield and Signal bushwhacks

Butterfield and Signal Mountains are two 3000' mountains less than 2 miles apart, which straddle the Caledonia-Orange County line. Access is from a dirt road which west turns off of Route 302 just south of the county line in the town of Orange. I had stayed the night before in Ricker Pond Campsite, about 10 miles north of this road. I left the campground at 6:00 AM and had a quick breakfast at the Upper Valley Grill, a diner across Route 302 from the road to the campground. I was to meet Tramper Al and Denis Hanson at the dirt road at 7:00 AM. I managed to drive right by it and had to turn around when I got to the Route 25 intersection, but on the second pass I met my two friends. The first surprise was a locked gate across the dirt road. This was a surprise, since several reports mentioned driving on this road but no one ever mentioned a gate that might be locked. Whether this is a seasonal closing or new policy in unknown. Future hikers to these mountains need to be aware of this possible closing. So we changed into our hiking stuff and started in on the 2.2 miles of road walk at about 7:15. We were paid back for this extra work by sighting a small female moose off the road just before we reached the spot we were heading for.

(I just heard from Audrey that the gate was open two days later, so perhaps we were just unlucky or perhaps it was a scheduled opening after mud season was deemed to be over.)

We reached the spot which was mentioned in the reports: a grassy turnout just before a stream crossing, and this was where we started our bushwhack.

Butterfield Mountain (3167')

The terrain was relatively easy going. We started in towards the peak at a 255 degree magnetic bearing. We would have done better to follow the road down to the stream crossing and take a 240 degree magnetic bearing. This would have put us on the northeast ridge which is easier. We might have been suckered by Al's GPS which pointed directly at the peak, in spite of the fact that several reports had mentioned that we should first get on the ridge line before ascending. In any case we followed some gullies up and eventually reached easier going with blackberries and animal tracks above 3000'. Ironically the tough stuff was through old boulders and young maple saplings lower down and blackberry bushes part way up. The upper section in the spruce/fir forest was rather easy.

Al spotted the register first, so he won the beer which we would enjoy later in the day. We signed the register and returned down the mountain, this time straight down the northeast ridge at a bearing of about 60 degrees magnetic. It was very easy going all the way down till close to the bottom. We reached the road almost exactly where it crossed the stream, which we thought was good navigating. Note that the route described in the Jones' report on the CHP site, which several others have followed, heads across to Signal without returning first to the road, but we thought our plan had several advantages, mostly that of easier terrain and more direct routes along ridge lines.

Note: if you decide to try this route here's a couple of hints: 1) make sure you stay on the ridge line coming down. Don't stray to the left or right. 60 degrees magnetic should do it but watch the terrain. 2) if you hit the stream instead of the road, don't cross it, just follow it down on the near side (south bank) and you will hit the road very shortly. Once you hit the road then go left across the stream to do the Signal bushwhack.


The round trip time from the dirt road was 1:50 (plus 40 minutes for the road walk - one way).

Butterfield Bushwhack distance: ~ 1.75 miles

Signal Mountain (3352')

As noted above, we finished the Butterfield bushwhack where the stream crosses the road (through a culvert) about 2.3 miles from Route 302. We walked further along this road, which turns east after the stream, to the height of land where there is a gravel pit on the left. (We started at a second gravel pit slightly further along, but we should have just started at the first.) After a false start towards the knoll at 2759', we settled on a bearing of due magnetic north straight up the south ridge. The terrain was in 3 sections: lower down were boulders and dense maple saplings and an occasional creek (similar to the lower terrain of Butterfield). The middle section from about 2600' to 3000' was rather steep with one rock ledge which we had to circumvent. This was rather tiring but not difficult from a bushwhack perspective. The top section from about 3000' to the summit was easy going. Al again found the canister easily (sorry, you just get one beer) and we signed the register and took a break. As usual on these summits we thought we found a spot about 20 yards away just a little bit higher. Well, that's life for the bushwhacker.

We returned down the mountain on a due magnetic south bearing with no problems. Rain started about half way down but was no big deal. We hit the road at the first gravel pit on the dot, and turned right onto the road. The route was easier than we expected. Round trip time 2:10. We then walked the 2+ miles back to Route 302 and the car.

Signal Bushwhack distance: ~ 2 miles

The decision to return to the dirt road rather than bushwhacking directly from Butterfield to Signal was a good one. We had a nice day of two nice peaks.

Since it was around 1:00 PM when we got back to the cars we didn't feel like making the lengthy drive up to East Mountain, so we agreed to save that for another day.

Total Distance: 8.25 miles, Elevation gained: 2820'

Post hike

We were each going off to a different destination that afternoon so we headed to Barre to find a place to eat and drink before splitting up. We stopped at a tourist information place in Barre and were directed to Mr. Z's Pizza, which is on Route 302 on the right just before the intersection with Route 62 leading to I-89. There we got the luncheon special of burgers, fries and a pint of Otter Creek for $8.49. A great deal and the beer just hit the spot. But I noticed the glasses were kind of small for a pint and mentioned it to the guys, but I was shy to mention it to the waitress. But Al had no such shyness and happened to be right at the sign advertising the special when the waitress walked by. he asked about our little pints and the waitress apologetically got us each another glass of beer (I'm sure the total was now more than a pint). So Al actually got himself the beer he had won on the mountain. And we did too. That's what I call a win, win, win!

Here's (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june) some pictures.

Pb

Papa Bear
06-07-2004, 10:00 AM
June 4: East Mountain (3438'), East Haven, Vermont

East Mountain was originally planned as an afternoon hike after we did the Butterfield / Signal bushwhacks. When we finished up around 1:00 on Thursday we decided to forget about East since it was a long drive up and we were not sure the road would be open.

That night I returned to Stowe after a beer with Al and Denis in Barre, and finally got through to the caretaker for the wind farm company which owns the land on East (or at least some of the land). He said sure, hikers were welcome and I should just show up at his home which is by the gate in Hartwellville.

A word on East. There is an old abandoned radar installation on the summit which was run by the federal government in some years past and access is via a road which climbs 4 miles to the summit from another back country road, called "Radar Road". Radar Road is a rutted paved road which runs from Hartwellville on Route 114 to Gallup Mills on the Granby Road. There are gates at both ends of Radar Road and another gate where the East Mountain summit road joins Radar Road. Normal access is at Gallup Mills where the gate is supposed to be open. So from there you can drive to the upper gate and then hike the last 4 miles on the East Mountain road to the summit. But I was told to approach from the other end, so I did.

After breakfast at McCarthy's in Stowe, I was on the road by about 7:30. I took 100 south to I-89, east on I-89 to Montpelier where I picked up 2 east. Then onto I-91 north at Saint Johnsbury and off at the next exit at Lyndonville where I picked up 114 north. Then I turned into Radar Road (first called School Road and then Mountain Road until it became radar Road) and drove up 2 miles to the caretaker's house. This was about 80 miles and took me about 1:45. I met Del and he mentioned that I could have gone via Gallup Mills (slightly longer) since the gate to radar Road is open there, but since I came here at his request, he gave me the key to the gate at this point, and told me to lock it on the way out and leave the key in his box. He was very friendly and helpful but it's good to know you don't need to bother with the locked gate and key at all if you take the other way in.

I then let myself in, relocked the gate and drove about 3.5 miles up to the upper gate where I parked and changed. I got walking a little before 10:00 AM at the upper gate. It is 4 miles and nearly 1700' of elevation to the top from this point.

It was a beautiful Vermont June day, with a mixture of sun and clouds, little humidity and temperatures in the 50s. And no black flies! It was somewhat boring and lonely walking up this long and long deserted road. There were some buildings after about a mile and then nothing but trees and the road, up and up and up. It was steep for a road but not particularly steep for a hike. The road curved around, approaching generally from the south and then turning towards the west in the last half mile. The trees changed from hardwoods to spruce and fir and it was actually a very beautiful area with nothing to be seen but trees in any direction. At last I reached the summit which was cluttered with old tumbling down buildings. I climbed one to the second floor and got some good views out some of the windows. There was a big warehouse looking building across the road where some ravens were hanging out and were making a huge racket. I had a snack, took some pictures and then it was back town the road.

On the way down I saw some unknown mountains to the north. Look at the last few pictures in my set and see if you know what they might be. I reached the car just before 1:00 PM, 3:05 roundtrip for the 8 miles of road walk. It's not as enjoyable but it is faster walking on the roads. I changed back into driving clothes, drove down the mountain and let myself out. I had a brief scare that I would be locked in until I realized I was trying to open the lock with my motel room key!! Temporary panic!

Then it was back to Stowe, with a brief stop in Waterbury for a cold one at the Eclipse Bar. This was the first rainless hiking day all week and a fitting end to my week of hiking on such a beautiful and remote mountain (in spite of the ramshackled buildings on the summit).

Total distance hiked: 8.0 miles, Elevation gain: 1670'

Here's (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june) some pictures.

Pb

RoySwkr
06-07-2004, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Papa Bear
[The decision to return to the dirt road rather than bushwhacking directly from Butterfield to Signal was a good one. We had a nice day of two nice peaks.

If you stay on the genuine ridge, you also get Burnt Mtn which you will need for the Trailwrights VT 3000-footers :-)

The terrain sounds like what I remember from the '80s, reports from ~5 years ago mentioned a lot of windstorm debris but apparently it's going away

Papa Bear
06-07-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by RoySwkr

If you stay on the genuine ridge, you also get Burnt Mtn which you will need for the Trailwrights VT 3000-footers :-)
Mr. Schweiker, surely you jest! Besides, for the Trailwrights you have to do each peak as a separate hike so crossing that ridge would not qualify me! Touche! ;)

Actually there were very few blowdowns. Fairly easy going. I avoided the route via Burnt due to the reported thick and wet area in the col.

Pb

Tramper Al
06-07-2004, 10:28 PM
First, thanks to Pb for organizing this - it got me up there for this bushwhack when it might have taken some time to get around to it.

Mohamed, I believe I signed that first register on the back cover, where a few others had.

In addition to the live moose, we also found a moose skeleton on the way down from the Caledonia CoHP. That's kind of fun, and you don't have to call the state police, since its just a moose.

I did not get to East (as the Long Trail was caling me), but I will soon, armed with Pb's info. Denis and I will be going for another NECoHP soon.

Thanks again!

Papa Bear
06-10-2004, 03:53 PM
I just got two sets of images for this trip that may intreset you.

1) More photos: I have added Meo's photos for the hike along the Worcester Range. This starts at photo #17 and you can tell Meo's shots since I put "(Meo)" in the caption. They are nice since they show the misty wearther rather well and especially how nice the Skyline ridge Trail was. As I mentioned in the repoort this is a gem of a trail and meo and I promised ourselved to return another day.

Here (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june) is the set of pictures. Click on the thumbnail to make it larger. Or click twice. Or use the "Slideshow option".

2) GPS generated bushwhack routes: I got the maps showing the bushwhack routes from Tramper Al (thanks for the suggestions on how to do this on another thread).

Here's (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june/adb?full=1) the Butterfield bishwhack route.

And Here's (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june/adc) the Signal bushwhack route.

In case there is anyone left on this board who is thinking of doing these, here's a few notes:

Butterfield
- We returned to the road from Butterfield rather than cutting straight over towards Signal. I believe on the whole this is easier.
- It would have been easier going, and not much longer (if at all) to continue on the road to the stream, a distance of about .3 miles and ascend to Butterfield along the northeast ridge - which is the way we came down. We slanted up a steeper and thicker slope as shown.
Signal
- To do Signal, walk (or drive if you really have to) along the road another .25 miles past the stream to the height of land (this is at about 2300' on the map). There is a gravel pit there. Go in on a bearing of magnetic north. The map shows our routes up and down which were pretty close to being the same.

Pb

el-bagr
06-10-2004, 04:05 PM
Nice TRs. I'm trying to figure out what mountains you saw NE of East Mountain (http://gallery.backcountry.net/papabear_2004_vermont_june/acb?full=1)... I'm thinking that they could be (topozone) (http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=19&n=4954557&e=293439&s=500&size=l&datum=nad83&layer=DRG250) across the Connecticut River into NH -- Goback Mtn and Blue/Gore/Sugarloaf?

RoySwkr
06-10-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by el-bagr
NE of East Mountain... I'm thinking that they could be across the Connecticut River into NH -- Goback Mtn and Blue/Gore/Sugarloaf?
I agree that most of the peaks in #75 are in NH, the one in front would be West Mtn a fire-tower peak

I imagine that it's #73 that is most interesting, a due N shot would have Senecas in the foreground so maybe this is NNE in which case that could be Monadnock, that's not the shape I'm used to from the E

If photos can be imprinted with time and date why not compass bearing?

Papa Bear
06-10-2004, 08:51 PM
I suspect Monadnock would be much further away then the peak in #73. But then way off on the horizon towards the right of the frame ... maybe. Then on the right margin in the forground the east ridge of East.

Papa Bear
06-10-2004, 09:30 PM
Roy

I was just looking at those NH Mountains. Looks like the whole range with Mt. Blue at 3729' the high point is a ring-dyke monadnock, like Mount Shaw overlooking Lake Winnipisauke. And it looks like it has over 1800' of prominence with saddle at Cranberry Bog Notch (?), almost in the NEFF.

Have you hiked that area (I know, a stupid question)?

Pb

Meo
06-11-2004, 11:26 PM
PB, nice reports, I just read them for the first time. Yes, I agree about Worcester range, Waterbury and Skyline trails are fun and lovely:) We must go back!

BTW, PB, our Presi Traverse went well, I wrote a brief report in Kevin Rooney's thread.

Meo