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percious
06-28-2004, 09:17 AM
Ok, so this weekend I took my buddy up to the dax for the first time. We did, Marshall, Gray, and Marcy, all "bushwhacks." Seemed like the only true bushwhack was Marcy over from Gray (Very half-a$$ed trail). Anyway Here is my question. Are there any peaks that are not accessable via bushwhack? Here are some of the trailed ones that I know are available for a bushwhack:

Gothics
LWJ
Dix
Wright
Iroquois
Colden
Skylight (from Redfield)
Nippletop
Giant


Just thought it would be interesting to attack the peaks via bushwhack, instead of standard routes. What do you guys think?

-percious

Peakbagr
06-28-2004, 09:25 AM
John Winkler, did this back in the 80's and wrote a book about it.

hillman1
06-28-2004, 10:33 AM
Do you know the title of the book? I would like to pick that one up.

ken
06-28-2004, 10:46 AM
>>Anyway Here is my question. Are there any peaks that are not accessable via bushwhack? <<

what do you consider a "bushwack" ? a bushwack doesn't have to include a herdpath as did your "bushwack" from gray to marcy - the first one to do any of these peaks did them on a bushwack - - just make a left or a right from any trail anyplace that there is not another trail and you are bushwacking - it may take a long time to push through the branches and climb over and under the blowdown but it is possible to do a bushwack to any spot that you want to go, it just won't be as quick or as sure as a herdpath, and it is kind of hard to follow a compass line when you encounter unexpected cliffs that you have to go around (a gps is good in these situations).

percious
06-28-2004, 10:57 AM
ken,
I mean, you are right to say that a bushwhack is off trail. What I meant was standard routes. I really like to climb slides. Swimming holes and waterfalls are pluses. Its nice to have something to follow through the scrub.

Here is a link for all you other guys.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0925168378/qid=1088438141/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/102-5453352-4674506?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

-percious

Pete_Hickey
06-28-2004, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Peakbagr
John Winkler, did this back in the 80's and wrote a book about it.

IIRC, the book is more of a photo journal that a trip report. A book of photos that depict views rarely seen. Title was along the lines of 'a Bushwhackers view of the Adirondacks'

percious
06-28-2004, 02:33 PM
has anyone done the redfield/skylight Whack? Does it go by moss pond? I want to check that out.

-percious

woodstrider
06-28-2004, 02:38 PM
Any mountain can be done as a bushwhack. All you need are a map and compass, some imagination and balls.:D

Happy Trails

Peakbagr
06-28-2004, 02:41 PM
Pete,

John is a friend of mine and I thought his book would be a good starting point for someone interested. When you read it, you get more of a sense of his perspective than a "how to".
An established herd path between or up peaks was not how he did these.
They were by non-established routes.
Iroquois, for example, cold be climbed from the Indian Pass trail, but not by the herd path from Boundary or up from Marshall Pass.

PB

mike1889
06-28-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by hillman1
Do you know the title of the book? I would like to pick that one up.

Here's a link to the book:

http://www.anybook4less.com/detail/0925168378.html

and it's sequel:

http://www.adirondack-books.com/johnwinkler.html
http://www.geocities.com/millbrookmt/

hillman1
06-28-2004, 04:10 PM
I ordered the book today, they had to call the publisher to see if there were any copies left. Thankfully there were, as I have been shut down on a couple of books lately.

peak_bgr
06-28-2004, 08:00 PM
I have bushwhacked about 12 now. Some nice (cascade, porter, phelps, wright, iroquois,lower wolf jaw, nippletop,dix,colden,giant,)

some bad(marcy,nye)

It's a love/hate relationship. Someday I may complete the 46 by bushwhacks, but who knows.

Bhoody
06-28-2004, 08:38 PM
Peak_bgr - would love any beta on your bushwhack of Lower Wolfjaw - have gone at that from a lot of different angles and was wondering what a bushwhack approach would be like - a very cliffy peak in spots...