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ALGonquin Bob
10-01-2004, 01:26 PM
I just spoke with our Fed EX driver at work who hikes in the Adirondacks. He hiked the Wolfjaws, Armstrong and Gothics last weekend, and he said that there are nice new cables back in place on Gothics! Yeah!

Grumpy
10-01-2004, 01:43 PM
Pete Hickey and crew reinstalled the Gothics cables about three weeks ago. Hats off to Pete & Company!

G.

1ADAM12
10-01-2004, 01:55 PM
Way to go Adirondack Trail Crew (Pete Hickey) WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:)

EMM
10-01-2004, 02:05 PM
Many thanks, Pete and company, for all your hard work. Much appreciated.

EM
Ottawa, ON

Pete_Hickey
10-01-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Grumpy
Pete Hickey and crew reinstalled the Gothics cables about three weeks ago.


No... The DEC re-installed them. My son & I just went along for the ride.

Some pictures again:

http://newmud.comm.uottawa.ca/~pete/trailwork/Gothics/cables.html

NYBRAD
10-01-2004, 04:52 PM
I'm glad you cleared that up Pete.

It would only be a matter of time untill someone got hurt on the cables and wanted to take legal action on the installer.
And then some jackass would say "hey you know what" Pete Hickey installed those cables. :D ;)

prino
10-01-2004, 05:41 PM
Nice Pics Pete! You must take some credit for hauling those suckers up there!!!

masshysteria
10-01-2004, 05:54 PM
Hey Pete, the pictures I saw showed you, your son, and some other folks doing all the bull work. Now maybe you had some supervision, but in my book, that makes YOU the installers. The worthy recipients of all praise, honor, and glory! Let the supervisor handle the legal affairs!

Rick
10-01-2004, 06:59 PM
Who was that funnylooking clean shaven old guy in the pics?????:D :D :D :D :D

1ADAM12
10-01-2004, 09:13 PM
Awesome pics Pete thanks for sharing

jade
10-02-2004, 06:31 AM
In my mind, this is what the good life is all about....passing it on. How splendidly wonderful that there are folks like you out there Pete and family. Warms my heart.

There will be many over the years who will appreciate your efforts and none, we hope, that will be hurt or have an inclination to bring an accident to the courts.....

Kudos!!

Grumpy
10-03-2004, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by Pete_Hickey
No... The DEC re-installed them. My son & I just went along for the ride.
Thanks for the correction. Methinks ye are bein' a bit modest.

Nice photos. And thanks to ALL who had a hand in reinstalling those cables!

G.

Pete_Hickey
10-03-2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Rick
Who was that funnylooking clean shaven old guy in the pics?????:D :D :D :D :D

See??? I told you I wasn't the one who installed them.

I really didn't have much to do with it. The DEC had planned the whole thing. My son & I wnt in there, and huled 160 pounds of stuff up for Dan (JB caretaker, who also had a good load), then we put them in.

oldfogie
10-04-2004, 10:17 PM
Man Oh man! How much did those packs weigh? They probably pakced the old cable out too! I seriously doubt though that the duct tape and hose will last very long. Did any new steel forks have to be driven into rock?
--Joe, 3102w

Pete_Hickey
10-05-2004, 06:16 AM
The packs were heavy. I can tell you that. Not sure how heavy, though. The frame helps a lot with the weight: putting it in the righe places so that it doesn'T bother the bones, but I really felt the weight in my thigh muscles.

No, the hose won't last as long as the steel cable. It really makes a difference on teh hands, though. I expect it'll make a big difference in the winter. We were only able to thread one section of the cable with the hose. Dan is going back with a lubricant.

Oh.. and bringing out the old cable.. <sheepish grin> Another day.

Mark
10-05-2004, 08:13 AM
Suggestion: cut up the old cables into "reasonable" pieces. Leave a sign with the pieces asking descending hikers to voluntarily pack out a chunk. It'd be a nice way for the rest of us to show our appreciation for the new cables.

masshysteria
10-05-2004, 01:21 PM
Mark has offered an excellent solution to the problem of the old cables. It is rather unsightly to see the old one laying in the bushes.

Pete_Hickey
10-05-2004, 01:28 PM
Mark's idea had been suggested. I even suggested that it be posted here for people to pick up a souvenir of the old cables. Cutting them up into managable peices takes time.

Mark
10-05-2004, 01:51 PM
Pete,

How can the cables be cut? Will a hack saw work or do you need bolt cutters? I don't suppose anyone feels like packing up a cutting torch?

I helped a ham radio operator friend put up a tower once. We secured the tower with 3/8 inch, multi-strand cables. Those suckers took forever to cut through with a hack saw and every cut destroyed at least one hack saw blade!

Pete_Hickey
10-05-2004, 02:11 PM
Hacksaw will cut them. It'll take a long time, though. I don't know when time will be able to be devoted to that. The installation isn't complete yet, and that takes precedence.

The old removed cable is at least a half inch, but it's aluminium.

cooperhill
10-05-2004, 03:43 PM
I haven't hiked in the ADKs and I'm wondering if these are on other steep trails. I haven't come across them at all on White Mountain peaks (although there may be some I don't know about). Why are these needed? Are the trails super steep? I haven't hiked it so I don't know if they are needed or not. Maybe they keep people off of ecologically sensitive areas?

Thanks.

Chris

Grumpy
10-05-2004, 03:53 PM
There are tools on the market made specifically for cutting wire rope (cable) that may work. They are described and discussed briefly here. (http://www.tpub.com/content/construction/14273/css/14273_240.htm)

I would imagine these are available at any good industrial supply house that caters to the heavy construction, mining or oil industries.

G.