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    If you can go after Labor Day instead of before,...

    If you can go after Labor Day instead of before, you will do better with crowds, and maybe also with weather.

    Depending on your route, consider Bryce and Zion. Or further east, the South Dakota...
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    Thanks, DougPaul. This is worthwhile...

    Thanks, DougPaul. This is worthwhile information.

    I would imagine that Gobright and Jacobsen did understand all this, as experienced climbers.

    But folks asking about this have taken the...
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    All this is a worthy and informative discussion...

    All this is a worthy and informative discussion for folks who are not familiar with technical mountaineering.

    >To the point of not using up your gear: In their famous climb of Gasherbrum IV, Tim...
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    Knotting the ends of ropes is a pretty common...

    Knotting the ends of ropes is a pretty common safety practice, but not always used or necessary. There are also some safety disadvantages to knotting the ends in some situations. Climbing forums...
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    Yeah this was a nasty outcome. I have...

    Yeah this was a nasty outcome. I have simul-rapped a couple times (when it was the only way to safely descend a particular formation). Risk of an accident is increased, and focus and concentration...
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    Fabulous. I have seen avy dogs at work. Hi tech...

    Fabulous. I have seen avy dogs at work. Hi tech folks have spent a ton of money developing a chemical "sniffer" that is not as sensitive as the nose of a dog, which just friggin grows naturally. ...
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    That's only the case where it has been requested....

    That's only the case where it has been requested. Used to occasionally see an official sign from a trail crew here or there asking for rocks to be brought up, but not so much anymore. When they...
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    Tom, of course this is subjective, but I...

    Tom, of course this is subjective, but I disagree. I think the reason a lot of folks pursue a particular list is tradition, not precision.

    So I like that the Adirondack 46 list stays the same. ...
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    I skimmed the letter (it's quite long and...

    I skimmed the letter (it's quite long and detailed). On a fast read, the recommendations make sense to me. (I particularly agree with the emphasis on building opportunity for youth and veterans.) ...
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    Yes, it's beautiful. I don't know how long it...

    Yes, it's beautiful. I don't know how long it will last, but so far with the cold temperatures it has stayed pretty powder. Snow shoed today on a local hill; it was spectacular in the afternoon...
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    Same over here in the Adirondacks. 7" of nice...

    Same over here in the Adirondacks. 7" of nice snow and 3 degrees this morning. And the same down south over here - mostly rain and slush from Albany down, so visitors may be surprised that winter is...
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    Big holding company and it's lawyers took over in...

    Big holding company and it's lawyers took over in 2016. Thought they could get away with this behavior. Got caught by the market. Now out on the apology tour.

    "We were never holistically...
  13. Thread: Tourism pledges

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    Of course we are talking on this thread about...

    Of course we are talking on this thread about state and federal land management agencies.

    But to join you in the thread drift, I well remember 50 years ago when NASA was the bastion of the best...
  14. Thread: Tourism pledges

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    We often disagree, but this is a good analysis. ...

    We often disagree, but this is a good analysis. Thanks. I hope some people at various government agencies can think clearly like this.
  15. I would watch your credit card - site is very...

    I would watch your credit card - site is very hokey looking. Looks like one of the fly-by-night Chinese scam sites. Might want to shop with a prepaid card.
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    Old discussion. If this were a private business,...

    Old discussion. If this were a private business, the problems would have been solved long ago, or they would have been out of business. Gather data, pareto the data, fix the root cause and ignore...
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    ^^^This.^^^ The value in this is a human...

    ^^^This.^^^

    The value in this is a human person to meet people, and act as a trailhead educator. The lawyer written pledge documents are just lawyer BS that will drive good people away.
  18. Thread: street / nye

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    https://www.adk.org/product/high-peaks-trails/ ...

    https://www.adk.org/product/high-peaks-trails/

    Trail.
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    Has not been a true bushwhack for 40 years. The...

    Has not been a true bushwhack for 40 years. The path was obvious when I climbed them the first time in 1986. But the network of multiple paths has been largely cleaned up, so it's fairly easy. The...
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    Probably worth linking to the ongoing discussion...

    Probably worth linking to the ongoing discussion here:
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  21. Impressive self rescue. Self rescue, regardless...

    Impressive self rescue. Self rescue, regardless of the situation or the party size, is an important skill, and always gives the party huge street cred.
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    Changes all the time. I like paper maps, but...

    Changes all the time. I like paper maps, but they don't keep up with those kinds of changes very well. The NOAA site is probably the definitive resource.
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    Good reminder! But you have to check that a...

    Good reminder!

    But you have to check that a little more often...based on the NOAA map, it looks like that change from 18 to 15 took about 40 years to happen... :)
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    Nice try, but it's the same everywhere. Our...

    Nice try, but it's the same everywhere. Our whacko green leftie demo Governor cries poverty all the time to avoid doing what he should do in the High Peaks, while at the same time building a 16...
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    The ant infestation is unfortunate, but thanks...

    The ant infestation is unfortunate, but thanks for the info. I'll pass that on to the group for reference.
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