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    Probably worth linking to the ongoing discussion...

    Probably worth linking to the ongoing discussion here:
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  2. Impressive self rescue. Self rescue, regardless...

    Impressive self rescue. Self rescue, regardless of the situation or the party size, is an important skill, and always gives the party huge street cred.
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    Changes all the time. I like paper maps, but...

    Changes all the time. I like paper maps, but they don't keep up with those kinds of changes very well. The NOAA site is probably the definitive resource.
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    Good reminder! But you have to check that a...

    Good reminder!

    But you have to check that a little more often...based on the NOAA map, it looks like that change from 18 to 15 took about 40 years to happen... :)
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    Nice try, but it's the same everywhere. Our...

    Nice try, but it's the same everywhere. Our whacko green leftie demo Governor cries poverty all the time to avoid doing what he should do in the High Peaks, while at the same time building a 16...
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    The ant infestation is unfortunate, but thanks...

    The ant infestation is unfortunate, but thanks for the info. I'll pass that on to the group for reference.
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    Thanks God we still have most of our leantos. ...

    Thanks God we still have most of our leantos.

    This is thanks to the tiny volunteer organization Lean2Rescue, which does great work.

    Our misguided fools in Albany were on a tear some years ago...
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    Could not help being reminded of the wonderful movie "The Cobbler":

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3203616/
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    Excellent reference. Another - "follow the...

    Excellent reference.

    Another - "follow the white rabbit" from The Matrix.
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    Remember PinPin's wonderful trip reports from...

    Remember PinPin's wonderful trip reports from years ago where the stuffed rabbit was cast as making all the right hiking decisions?

    Maybe the hikers wanted to get trail advice from a real rabbit? ...
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    Over here in the Adirondacks our traditional "46"...

    Over here in the Adirondacks our traditional "46" list includes Couchsacraga, one of our longest and toughest hikes, at 3820. Lots of gratuitous up and down, and a big swamp, just to get there.
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    Not quoting anyone in particular, just using the...

    Not quoting anyone in particular, just using the quotation marks to highlight word choices.

    Never followed Koch; not worried about what he thought. (But saddened by the massive show of disgusting...
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    No one can predict the climate with any degree of...

    No one can predict the climate with any degree of reliability, despite claims to the contrary. But the data to date are stubbornly linear. My pure GUESS, based on current data and known and...
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    Be a while. Here's the actual data: ...

    Be a while. Here's the actual data:

    https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?id=8443970

    Takes 100 years to rise less than a foot...
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    Thanks, Nessmuk. Yes, I have read that book and...

    Thanks, Nessmuk. Yes, I have read that book and taken the DEC basic SAR course, years ago.

    I was too broad when I said "no one has done a good job." Authors, Rangers, and various experts in...
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    Thanks. In discussions about this, many people...

    Thanks. In discussions about this, many people take "all or nothing" positions about the cost of rescue: "Absolutely everything has to be free even in cases of complete negligence!" or "Charge them...
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    Thanks! I'm glad the computers remember!

    Thanks! I'm glad the computers remember!
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    I'm glad this topic is back. I can't remember...

    I'm glad this topic is back. I can't remember everything I wrote last time.

    I thought the rules made sense, and I hope they are implemented.

    The one question I had was what will constitute...
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    I think this actually is a promising step...

    I think this actually is a promising step forward, if it actually gets implemented. I hope it does!

    Of course the new policy is a healthy mixture of "mountain safety" and "making money for...
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    Love these puppies. My own is a sweetheart. Met...

    Love these puppies. My own is a sweetheart. Met several nice dogs on my hike today in the Adirondacks.

    Gotta be honest. I sob out loud when I read about the Rainbow Bridge. If anyone you know...
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    Very old post, but still 100% true: ...

    Very old post, but still 100% true:

    https://www.vftt.org/forums/showthread.php?42330-New-Hampshire-Fish-and-Game-Search-and-Rescue-Funding-Hearing&p=361799&viewfull=1#post361799

    Time to do...
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    Well Street and Nye are on the "46" list, so...

    Well Street and Nye are on the "46" list, so there are usually at least some hikers. But these are not often repeated, like say Giant or Cascade or Phelps. For most people these are "one and done."...
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    This thread started out as an interesting...

    This thread started out as an interesting question about a route through the mountains, but it has become a troll thread. I suggest folks just stop responding to this...
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    Herd path is in good shape; heavily traveled. ...

    Herd path is in good shape; heavily traveled. Water is low now at Indian Pass Brook; easy crossing. Follow the path all the way to the crossing with cairns.

    Nye is 3888; only for the traditional...
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    Exactly. Thank you. The most valuable thing...

    Exactly. Thank you.

    The most valuable thing for an INDIVIDUAL is being recognized for what they do, more than for what group they belong to. A walk around Central Park picking up litter is just...
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