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    I miss summer

    Never thought I would say that, but yes, I missed summer badly, yesterday during a Giant and Rocky Pk Ridge hike under a near 0 degree F temp.

    Hiking is OK, but get prep at trailhead, eating, drinking water, taking a short break, all this was terrible. Even the summits were not enjoyable.

    I am not saying that winter hiking is not for me, I just think I need to go more, so I will learn how to dress properly.

    I was wondering if some of you have a low temperature limit for hiking

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmus
    Never thought I would say that, but yes, I missed summer badly, yesterday during a Giant and Rocky Pk Ridge hike under a near 0 degree F temp.

    Hiking is OK, but get prep at trailhead, eating, drinking water, taking a short break, all this was terrible. Even the summits were not enjoyable.

    I am not saying that winter hiking is not for me, I just think I need to go more, so I will learn how to dress properly.

    I was wondering if some of you have a low temperature limit for hiking
    Bite your tongue

    I LOVE winter, hiking and skiing . . .
    I usually come fully prepared to the trailhead during winter. I just throw on jacket and mittens and swing the pack over my shoulders and go . . . this helps with not getting cold prep-ing at the trailhead.

    My cold limit was reached Jan 2004 at the ADK winter Gathering, where the temps at the trailhead were -22 and continued to drop as we climbed. I have Audrey to thank for taking care of me on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmus
    I am not saying that winter hiking is not for me, I just think I need to go more, so I will learn how to dress properly.
    I just started winter hiking a few years ago and the more experience you get, the more you can refine your clothing/pack system. At first I was never sure what to wear, carry, etc. and it's getting easier (my main thing was that I wore way too much clothing at first).

    One weekend two winters ago in the ADKs was probably my temp limit (I think my limiting factor are my boots). It was -20F when we woke up in the morning and I don't think it warmed up above 0 during the day. It was blue skies, sunny, and calm, so it was doable for me.

    And remember -- no bugs and fewer people.

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    I actually reached my limit skiing at Wildcat about 2 years ago. It was -50 (with wind-chill) standing at the top of the mtn not to mention the fact that I was going at least 15-20 MPH (my body would not permit moving any faster than that in those conditions) down it. They actually closed the lift to the top b/c it was so cold. I have never experienced cold like that in my life.

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    Winter is a beautiful & special time in the mountains, but give me a pair of shorts, sport bra, running shoes, fanny pack, bright sun and 80 degree temps over winter conditions any day!

    Stinky "soon-to-escape-to-warm-climes" feet


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    Quote Originally Posted by timmus
    Never thought I would say that, but yes, I missed summer badly, yesterday during a Giant and Rocky Pk Ridge hike under a near 0 degree F temp.

    Hiking is OK, but get prep at trailhead, eating, drinking water, taking a short break, all this was terrible. Even the summits were not enjoyable.

    I am not saying that winter hiking is not for me, I just think I need to go more, so I will learn how to dress properly.

    I was wondering if some of you have a low temperature limit for hiking
    I get dressed in a warm restroom somewhere near the trailhead. With a long drive usually, it allows me to drive most of the way in jeans and sneakers then gear up indoors. The Highland center has also been a nice place to gear up. For crampons or snowshoes I usually get into the woods where it's a little bit warmer.

    I'll hike a little below zero if it's a day in the woods and at zero for above treeline stuff.
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    This morning, with temps in the single digits and a wind chill below that, I never questioned whether I would be warm even on the exposed summit. Learning what layers to wear and when to put them on is key. Walking through unbroken snow toward a cloudless sky that was a rich blue background for the iced tree tops sparkling in the sun is beyond compare.
    I'm just outwalkin....

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    Jules-
    I've got pretty decent winter clothing and don't mind the below zero but only for shorter ski trips etc. I got real lucky when we camped out a few weeks ago- temps only down into the low 20s at night and someone along who loves to build fires. But..I go out in the winter not because I love snow and ice (although it is beautiful) but because I can't stand to stay inside. So bring on the warm weather!

    Jules, your album keeps getting better and better! I could just replace your name with mine and it's so fitting. Well, and add on a couple of decades of time!

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    sun and warmth

    I do not like winter hiking. I hike in the winter because there's no way I could do nothing for so long, I need my mountains. But summer is when Im in love. Give me a 14,000ft peak on a warm summmer day and Im in heaven. Ive done alot of winter climbing, even iceclimbed for 7 years or so, so Ive seen my share of winter but I find the clothes and need to constantly regulate your temps a pain in the a#@. I was caught in an avalanche a few years back and froze my hands, that took the winter fun right out of me. Now dont get me wrong I can see the attraction and certainally dont knock you winter hikers, BUT summer is for me period.

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    Winter rocks. Whenever I start wishing for summer, I remember all those deer fly threads from last year!

    Once you get your clothing right, it's golden. I like to regulate heat with my head, no toque, light toque, heavy toque, heavy toque with hood. It's easy to switch really fast. The lowest I've gone is -25C. Anything lower than that and I'd probably have to have a pair of insulated boots.

    Running down a mountain without tripping over roots and rocks is so much fun.

    The only thing I miss about summer is the swimming holes.


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    Don't be put off by yesterday Julie. I was up North in the Laurentians and it was brutal out there.... -20c with a wind chill making it closer to -35. I'm sure they'll be less challenging winter days. Stick with it!

    Think of the up side NO BUGS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BorealChickadee
    Jules, your album keeps getting better and better! I could just replace your name with mine and it's so fitting. Well, and add on a couple of decades of time!
    Thanks !
    I just added Esther, I invite you to take a look

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim lombard
    I get dressed in a warm restroom somewhere near the trailhead. With a long drive usually, it allows me to drive most of the way in jeans and sneakers then gear up indoors. The Highland center has also been a nice place to gear up. For crampons or snowshoes I usually get into the woods where it's a little bit warmer.
    Because I always have 2-3 hours before a hike in ADK, I will remember this advice. Thanks

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    Both winter and summer present challenges. This past summer when it was high 80's and full of bugs, and I was on Colvin and Blake I wished for snow. Yesterday, along the shore of Lake Ontario, I wished for 80 degrees and my yak. It all works. Gear and preperation are 50% of it and mental preperation is the other 50%. I generally get so pumped to hike, I don't notice the weather a whole lot (if I have the right gear). Layers, and more layers, and a good wind stopper are keys. We did a long loop for Sawteeth a couple years ago. Turned it into almost 19 miles coming straight down the windswept lake at dusk. It was -5 when we left the trailhead, and -2 when we returned, although it never really felt cold.

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    Darn! You are talented. That bunny is cute.

    We all have our tolerance levels. Reading these posts reminds me that I just mentally ignore insects. I simply don't let them bother me. This has worked all but two or three times over many years. But cold...I absolutely can't ignore it. Sun, warm granite, green leaves...

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    Ignoring bugs v. cold

    I second Boreal Chickadee's remarks that some of us find it easier to ignore bugs than cold - I do. After three days on the Mattawamkeag River in Northeast Maine in the dead middle of a bumper blackfly season in May 2001, I don't believe the other New England states, where I usually hike, even have what you could properly term bugs. Certain nothing that's really captured my attention since then.

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