SAR-EMT40
Well-known member
It seems like a lot of people use the term to mean not getting to where they want to be by a certain time. That isn’t really what it means to me. I guess in the strictest technical terms it means not being where you think you are. While I agree that can be unnerving I don’t know why people worry so much about that. When I go out in the woods to camp for the week or even the weekend I go with the intention of staying out enjoying myself in the woods. If I have a goal to get to a certain spot that’s fine but I can change that on a whim. I remember one night walking in following a river to get where we were going. The river was so high that it had many fingers that normally water wouldn’t run in so it was very difficult crossing and we decided to bushwhack nearby the bank to get to the trail when it re-crossed before it crossed again. We had to decide at three AM either to stay put until we knew for sure if we were moving along the path correctly or to continue moving in a fashion that wouldn’t have taken us to were we possible didn’t to where we wanted to go. My feeling was what difference did it make? We wanted to get out in the woods for two nights. If we were where we thought we where or not what difference did it make? Technically we would be lost but who cares? We weren’t in any trouble and we could still get out on time. We would just spend our days in the woods a little ways away from where we originally planned. The goal was still met which was two nights out in the woods having fun.
There are two things I believe causes people inexperienced in the woods to panic or at least have difficulties. The first is they mistake distance and time. They are very comfortable with distance. They think they have a good handle on distance. They don’t know the meaning of the term one mile means something a lot different in the woods then it does on the street. I know I can easily cover one mile in less than one minute, on the highway. Easily in 20 minutes on a flat trail with a full pack, but up a real rough slope with a full pack and poorly fitting shoes, an hour, two hours, three? I never calculate anything in my head in the woods with reference to distance except in the loosest of terms. I calculate it in effort and time. Not how many miles, how many hours? That of course is related to elevation gain, temperature, ground conditions, roughness of the terrain and also distance. As all of you know the time to go three miles can vary wildly. I think many new hikers don’t calculate it that way and the “small hike” exhausts them and then they don’t know how they are going to get out “in time”. That is the real problem; they can’t do it “in time”. In time may mean somewhere they need to be but more than likely it means they expected to get out before the woods got dark. They didn’t plan for any nighttime travel and they may even be afraid of staying in the woods at night. This is because they were using distance as the constraint instead of time. They have even less of a margin if they make a simple small mistake.
The second I believe is blind panic. The “idea” that they don’t know where they are, is so foreign, and terrifying, to so many people, that they panic. Many times they panic even when there is no reason to panic. They don’t need that hamburger tonight and they can live three days without water. They could get out tomorrow but they don’t read the situation correctly. I, like many of you, have seen a lot of the woods and are accustomed to how it looks from the lower elevations to the higher peaks and how it looks and the noises that are in them in the day and night. I know to people less woods’ traveled it sounds odd that I recognize a specific tree or rock but I do as I am sure many of you do. I absolutely know that I saw that tree on the way in just like I absolutely know that this isn’t the way we came in. Of course I turn around and look behind me fairly frequently so I will recognize what it is going to look like coming out.
I guess I am writing this to get some other peoples thoughts. I think the term lost is used inappropriately many times. How many times are people actually lost in the dangerous sense? I mean you can be sure of the state your in, correct, or at a minimum the country ? What does lost really mean and how relevant is it to most of the things we read on the board that are listed as lost people and starting a SAR operation for?
Just curiosity on my part.
Keith
There are two things I believe causes people inexperienced in the woods to panic or at least have difficulties. The first is they mistake distance and time. They are very comfortable with distance. They think they have a good handle on distance. They don’t know the meaning of the term one mile means something a lot different in the woods then it does on the street. I know I can easily cover one mile in less than one minute, on the highway. Easily in 20 minutes on a flat trail with a full pack, but up a real rough slope with a full pack and poorly fitting shoes, an hour, two hours, three? I never calculate anything in my head in the woods with reference to distance except in the loosest of terms. I calculate it in effort and time. Not how many miles, how many hours? That of course is related to elevation gain, temperature, ground conditions, roughness of the terrain and also distance. As all of you know the time to go three miles can vary wildly. I think many new hikers don’t calculate it that way and the “small hike” exhausts them and then they don’t know how they are going to get out “in time”. That is the real problem; they can’t do it “in time”. In time may mean somewhere they need to be but more than likely it means they expected to get out before the woods got dark. They didn’t plan for any nighttime travel and they may even be afraid of staying in the woods at night. This is because they were using distance as the constraint instead of time. They have even less of a margin if they make a simple small mistake.
The second I believe is blind panic. The “idea” that they don’t know where they are, is so foreign, and terrifying, to so many people, that they panic. Many times they panic even when there is no reason to panic. They don’t need that hamburger tonight and they can live three days without water. They could get out tomorrow but they don’t read the situation correctly. I, like many of you, have seen a lot of the woods and are accustomed to how it looks from the lower elevations to the higher peaks and how it looks and the noises that are in them in the day and night. I know to people less woods’ traveled it sounds odd that I recognize a specific tree or rock but I do as I am sure many of you do. I absolutely know that I saw that tree on the way in just like I absolutely know that this isn’t the way we came in. Of course I turn around and look behind me fairly frequently so I will recognize what it is going to look like coming out.
I guess I am writing this to get some other peoples thoughts. I think the term lost is used inappropriately many times. How many times are people actually lost in the dangerous sense? I mean you can be sure of the state your in, correct, or at a minimum the country ? What does lost really mean and how relevant is it to most of the things we read on the board that are listed as lost people and starting a SAR operation for?
Just curiosity on my part.
Keith