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    Winter gear list critique

    The following is my winter peak bagging / bushwhacking gear list. What I am not wearing from the list is carried in my pack. I tend to use the same gear regardless of conditions and typically do not add or subtract to suit the weather or terrain.

    Im looking for constructive criticism, comments, praise, advice, and amusement.

    Let the games begin;

    Pack 3000ci (Gregory Z)
    Snowshoes (MSR Denali Ascent)
    Crampons (Grivel G10)
    Hiking poles (Black Diamond Flic-locs)
    2 Headlamps (Petzl MYO3 belt, and a Petzl Tikka for backup)
    2 or 3 Nalgenes (1 on outside of pack in bottle cozy)
    Small first aid kit
    Map
    2 compasses (one hanging from a lanyard around my neck, the other in my pack)
    GPS
    Small knife, matches, TP, fire starter.
    4 pair of mittens (Mercury Mitt Dachstein wool Double Fleece Double Wool)
    1 w/b non-insulated over mitt (Black Diamond Mercury Mitt shell)
    2 pair liner gloves
    2 pair heavy socks
    1 light weight base layer top
    1 med weight base layer top
    1 med weight base layer bottom
    1 wind shirt (Marmot Driclime)
    1 fleece vest
    1 Primaloft jacket (Go Lite Coal)
    1 Down jacket (EMS Glacier)
    1 w/b Shell (Marmot Mainline)
    1 w/b Pants (Marmot Precip w/full side zips)
    1 pair Boots (Columbia Bugaboo)
    1 light fleece hat
    1 fleece balaclava
    1 face mask (OR Windproof balaclava w/breathing port)
    1 pair Goggles
    Camera
    and a sense of adventure!

    Typical pack weight including food / water / snowshoes / crampons = 25lbs

    Onestep

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    I like the list. Seems like you will be prepared for anything. The only thing I would throw in is an emergency blanket. One of that can be used as a blanket or a tarp. Also a repair kit for snowshoes etc...Other than that looks good.

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    My list is similar.
    Things I don't carry that you list:
    I only carry 1 headlamp (Black Diamond Zenix IQ with extra lithium batteries),
    1 compass and GPS (my watch has an electronic compass, but I wouldn't count that)
    I carry 2 or 3 pairs of gloves
    1 pair of liners.
    a down jacket, but I carry an extra fleece pullover.
    spare base layer.

    Things I carry that you don't have on your list:
    (2) large garbage bags (can be used as emergency shelter/rain protection/VBL)
    Small roll of duct tape
    lighter
    foil emergency blanket
    handwarmers
    50 ft of nylon cord
    pair of shoe laces
    bandana

    Questions:
    Why do you carry both a waterproof top and a wind shirt? I figure my EMS Thunderhead jacket can serve double duty.
    If you carry two compasses why don't you carry a spare map?
    Last edited by imarchant; 01-31-2007 at 07:58 AM. Reason: add a few small items

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    Quote Originally Posted by imarchant
    Questions:
    Why do you carry both a waterproof top and a wind shirt? I figure my EMS Thunderhead jacket can serve double duty.
    I like to wear my Driclime over a thin base layer. This provides me the same warmth as a single mid weight layer but adds wind protection and better ventilation (full length zip exposing thin layer). When things get really wet (bustin through snow laden spruce) or REALLY windy, or I just need a little added warmth, I then put on the W/B Shell.

    Quote Originally Posted by imarchant
    If you carry two compasses why don't you carry a spare map?
    Probably cause I've never lost a map

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    Quote Originally Posted by imarchant
    Things I don't carry that you list:
    I only carry 1 headlamp (Black Diamond Zenix IQ with extra lithium batteries),
    Headlamps can fail in ways that are not field repairable and it is nice to have light to try to work on it or change batteries, if need be. I may carry an IQ as my main light (it is a pretty good headlamp, IMO), but also add one or two PTec Auroras which are simpler, light, and bright enough to hike a decently marked trail.

    Caver's rule: carry 3 independent sources of light.

    Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowshoe
    Also a repair kit for snowshoes etc...Other than that looks good.
    Duct tape! A shoestring and a few yards of duct tape can fix a snow shoe. I blew one out and would've been really screwed without it. Looks kind of ugly, but works fine.

    Take a water bottle and wrape a half-inch or so of duct tape around it. I've fixed my BD poles, a tent pole, the aforementioned snow shoes, and my climbing skins with it.

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    Duct tape & emergency blanket

    Good suggestions... I think some duct tape and at least a mylar blanket will find it's way into my pack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dug
    Take a water bottle and wrape a half-inch or so of duct tape around it.
    I start with a ~4 inch section of tape and keep wrapping the tape around it until I have enough. Makes a nice flat package which stows well with my emergency supplies.

    Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougPaul
    Headlamps can fail in ways that are not field repairable and it is nice to have light to try to work on it or change batteries, if need be. I may carry an IQ as my main light (it is a pretty good headlamp, IMO), but also add one or two PTec Auroras which are simpler, light, and bright enough to hike a decently marked trail.

    Caver's rule: carry 3 independent sources of light.

    Doug
    If I was planning to be out after dark I agree a back-up light should be carried. The diffrence between what I carry and the original list seems, to me, that I hope that I am a little more prepared to spend the night. The original list has equipment that would be better to oneself keep moving. The problem with that is, if you find youself in a situation where you can't move on you still need the survival gear. Note: the diffrence are minor and I would hope either of us could survive a night out.

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    looks like a nice list. I would definitely keep your extra headlamp. I like what you say about the marmot driclimb..i hear good things about that. I wonder if its still made and where to order it. google, here i come.

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    I like the extra light, I carry a mini-mag for the extra + spare batteries.

    I may have missed it but I don't see an insulation layer for your bottom, just the base & shell. Again if you can't move or moving is really slow, they would be nice to have. (I carry mine & really have not used them as expected but that is because so far I have not had to spend any unplanned time sitting still knock knock) In winter I prefer a heavy ER bag than the small ER blankets but I admit to carrying more than average, alot more than the lightweight crowd.
    Have fun & be safe
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    For the snowshoe repair kit, I carry five plastic zip ties (about 12 inches long) that I believe I read about here. I also carry about two feet of stiff wire in case I need to repair my crampon toe/heel bails or help if the bolt gets lost.

    If the weather is promising, I also carry sunglasses/glacier glasses.

    Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by imarchant
    If I was planning to be out after dark I agree a back-up light should be carried.
    I often get back to the car after dark when day hiking and therefore generally carry the full compliment of lights.

    I think my "best" is getting back to the car at 2:30 am in winter. (I had been hoping on getting back to the car around 10-11pm.)

    Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbreen
    For the snowshoe repair kit, I carry five plastic zip ties (about 12 inches long) that I believe I read about here.
    Zip ties can be very handy in certain situations...

    Doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by hikerfast
    lI like what you say about the marmot driclimb..i hear good things about that. I wonder if its still made and where to order it. google, here i come.
    I wear my Marmot Driclime in the same way Onestep does. I love it! They definitely still sell them and they remain quite popular.

    Here is one place to get it. You might get a better deal somewhere else, of course:
    Marmot Driclime

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