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    Quote Originally Posted by MattC View Post
    For cheap VBL protection, my friend just wears plastic salad gloves under his gloves or mittens.
    Other options, surgical gloves (drug store), kitchen gloves, nitrile gloves for painting (hardware store), etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post

    (You can put your frozen wool mitts in a ziplock bag and keep them in your sleeping bag at night.)
    I normally bring a dry dish towel and wring as much water out of my wool gloves as possible. The dish towel will dry faster than the wool, albeit the next day.
    EDIT: One of those highly absorbent hiker or As Seen on TV shammy towels might be better at this, but I don't own one of those yet, probably should.

    Don't know about Denali. Perhaps someone who's been there will let you know what they used.
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    Wool, wool and more wool. I freeze in fleece mittens. Ragg wool, any type, any flavor.

    Seriously, nothing keeps my hands as warm as wool whether wet or dry. For three decades I've been using wool mittens, single or double layered. I've tried high tech fleece and they pale in comparison.

    For most days in winter I also use smartwool glove liners until I have to go to wool mittens. The wool glove liners allow lots of dexterity, layer nicely under under wool mitts and dry quickly with body heat. Now if I can jsut find a place where they're not as expensive because I also use them during backcounty working winter weekends and finally put a hole in one last year.

    The rag wool mittens for 5.99 posted above in the Campmoor link by Pilgrim are a staple in my pack. Take several pairs, they're cheap, toasty and indestructible. And Pilgrim is right, boiled wool mitts are jsut that, knit oversized and then boiled down to size.

    Your choice of shell over the wool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinmac View Post
    Not sure what company you are going with, but here is the gear list from one of them:
    http://www.alpineascents.com/pdf/suggested-gear.pdf
    What would you guess all that gear weighs?
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    While I thank everyone for their thoughtful replies, most didn't address the question. I carry three liners and two sets of mid-layer gloves and mitts and I have a great system that works for me.

    My question is about the insulated outer mitts.

    Are the ones priced the same basically the same, or are there any real differences between them?

    The problem is that they are expensive, and they can be very important, and if I buy the wrong ones, I'll discover just how important they are the hard way.

    I've been using OR waterproof shells, which haven't always served me well, but I haven't been willing to pony up around $100 for insulated mitts, largely because I haven't felt knowledgeable enough to make an informed decision on which pair to buy, and with six winter backpacks coming up and then Denali afterwords, I finally have to act.

    So thank you very much to all those who have posted, I do appreciate the sincerity with which people approach the questions that get posted. But if anyone can address my question about the mitts in question more directly (most likely because they own a pair), I would be happy to hear your thoughts!

    Brian

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    good grief!! alpine axe and technical ice tools? two different harnesses? four different sleeping bags?

    I dont think you are expected to bring all of that. thats probably 40 lbs just in boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbitling View Post
    good grief!! alpine axe and technical ice tools? two different harnesses? four different sleeping bags?

    I dont think you are expected to bring all of that. thats probably 40 lbs just in boots.
    Here is the required list. The other one is suggested brands:
    http://alpineascents.com/pdf/denali-gear.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by B the Hiker View Post
    While I thank everyone for their thoughtful replies, most didn't address the question. I carry three liners and two sets of mid-layer gloves and mitts and I have a great system that works for me.

    My question is about the insulated outer mitts.

    Are the ones priced the same basically the same, or are there any real differences between them?

    The problem is that they are expensive, and they can be very important, and if I buy the wrong ones, I'll discover just how important they are the hard way.

    I've been using OR waterproof shells, which haven't always served me well, but I haven't been willing to pony up around $100 for insulated mitts, largely because I haven't felt knowledgeable enough to make an informed decision on which pair to buy, and with six winter backpacks coming up and then Denali afterwords, I finally have to act.

    So thank you very much to all those who have posted, I do appreciate the sincerity with which people approach the questions that get posted. But if anyone can address my question about the mitts in question more directly (most likely because they own a pair), I would be happy to hear your thoughts!

    Brian
    I'd go with the expensive ones, OR or BD. I don't own any of the pairs on your list, but typically (with a few exceptions) you get what you pay for. $180 is good insurance that you'll get to keep your fingers.

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    I have the BD Mercury mitts, and the OR Alti mitts. I can say that the OR Alti mitts are much warmer. If I go hiking with the misses, she "politely requests" the OR Alti mitts on those cold days. Given the latitude and altitude of Denali, I would favor getting the mitt with the most insulation, and personally believe that it's worth the money.

    aviarome

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    I used BD Mercury Mitts last on Denali this past spring. They were fine. Mine are big enough that I can wear a thick liner glove inside. The removable primaloft inner glove dries quickly. I did have a heavier pair of Grandoe mittens but I never used them. Going back, I would carry either 2 pair of the Mercury's or one Mercury and one bigger mitten like the OR Alti's or the warmest BD mitt. That is a new one that was not available last year.

    Bring two pairs no matter what. It is easy to lose one at a bad time. One of Frodo's Alti mitts is at the bottom of Denali Pass. Bring a couple of pairs of heavy gloves also. They will be your main workhorses.

    Try to keep your total load below 100 pounds. I had way, way too much food left over at the end.

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    The Alti's are awesome gloves for high altitude stuff, but they are a pain in the a$$ to use with rope work. I lost one as we were heading down Denali Pass as we were clipping into one of the many pickets. I also made a bad oxygen strived decision by lunging for it and had a close one...

    Anyway, having a backup is key otherwise digits could be lost. I'm not saying that you will need to carry 2 sets of bombproof gloves, but definitely carry a decent backup just in case...

    Using the idiot straps as Kevin pointed out is a good one. They are another pain in the a$$, but can save digits and lots of $$ when you do lose 1/2 of a $200 pair of gloves...

    BTW, if anyone wants to buy a left Alti, I am willing to sell it cheap... OR if anyone is willing to sell a right one, I am definitely interested...

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    Hey everyone - new here. This is my first post.

    I have a quick question. Who are you looking to climb Denali with? If you haven't made up your mind, let me suggest Alaska Mountaineering School (www.climbalaska.org).

    I did a 12 day mountaineering course with them this past August and loved it. They're led by Colby Coombs, who's really well known for his experiences on the mountain. They're also the only locally based company, right in Talkeetna, and they have a fantastic relationship with the park. They're known for having some of the best food on the mountain and having huge food caches. They were able to support a group for something along the lines of 14 days this past season at high camp with one of their food caches.

    Whoever you choose, enjoy the trip. I fell in love with Talkeetna. Get breakfast at the Roadhouse, best breakfast around, best cinnamon rolls. I could have gained many many happy pounds there. I never wanted to leave that little town.

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    Thank you again to everyone who sent in suggestions. I would not have thought to carry two pairs of insulated outer mitts (even more money to spend!), but it does make perfect sense.

    Thank you also to the folks who have done Denali who offered (on list or off) to give me advice. I am certain I will be asking you for it as the climb approaches!

    Brian


    p.s. Less than a hundred pounds, eh? Maybe I won't bring a hat...

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    One more late addition if it hasn't already been mentioned...

    I brought about two weeks' worth of chemical hand warmers to Denali this spring and used almost all of 'em. My hands get very, very cold (I have Raynaud's). For me, warm hands and peace of mind were well worth the little bit of added weight.

    Good luck on Denali. Hope you have as great a group of people as we did!!

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    I've used a pair of these in very cold weather and was toasty warm at camp, although I must confess, never at altitude. They would get soaked if wormed during exercise too.

    Fish

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