View Poll Results: Why do we buy fleece when wool is the better fiber?

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  • fleece is cheap

    17 28.33%
  • fleece is more available

    12 20.00%
  • fleeece is lighter & I don't care if it's cold when wet

    15 25.00%
  • I'm a victim of advertising

    4 6.67%
  • that's what everyone else is wearing so it's cool

    4 6.67%
  • wools is heavy when wet I don't care if it's warmer

    8 13.33%
  • wool isn't stylish

    2 3.33%
  • fleec is made from recycled junk, wool is a natually plentiful and renewable fiber, who cares

    6 10.00%
  • fleece feels better

    22 36.67%
  • I don't care, I wear what I like.

    29 48.33%
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    Why Do We Buy Fleece

    Why do we buy fleece when wool is the better fiber?
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    So we can get fleeced instead of having the wool pulled over our eyes?

    Doug

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    Fleece is lighter and cheaper. Wool itches. I don't take fleece any more on hikes because it is too hydrophilic but I like it in the house and in the car or on walks.

    Wool is my favorite for socks and mitts.

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    This ought to be good.

    It started with the invention of Patagonia pile in the late 1970's. Pile did not absorb water and therefore dried faster than wool. Pile eventually turned into fleece.

    History of Patagonia
    Last edited by jfb; 01-05-2010 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougPaul View Post
    So we can get fleeced instead of having the wool pulled over our eyes?

    Doug
    Very good, not very scientific but very good.
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    wanted to check 'other'

    I don't believe we should be exploiting animals and making them suffer for our own comfort.

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    Sorry, I have to go with wool. My sister is the controller for IBEX in VT. I love there stuff.

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    Fleece is way more breathable.
    Enjoy your best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2run View Post
    Sorry, I have to go with wool. My sister is the controller for IBEX in VT. I love there stuff.
    I love their stuff, too. Fortunately, I live nearby, so I can go to their annual tent sale(around 50% off), as I wouldn't be able to afford it otherwise!

    I've switched over to wool baselayer stuff head to toe.

    Now I'm considering switching my fleece for a wool sweater....but the fleece is "windbloc"....the sweater is a nice open weave, which might have its own benefits, but resistance to wind wouldn't be one of them!

    There is a company that makes wool outerwear with a windproof middle layer.http://www.beaglewear.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfb View Post
    We continue the search for more environmentally friendly fabrics.
    So why didn't the use wool?
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    Fleece (good quality fleece, that is) feels better plus it doesn't shrink! But I don't like the way cat and dog hair cling to it. The fact that it is made of recycled plastic is a plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Rickie View Post
    Very good, not very scientific but very good.
    Oh! You mean you wanted a serious answer?


    Both wool and fleece can be very breathable (open weave, etc) or wind blocking (tight weave, felted, wind blocking backing, etc).

    Better about fleece (polyester)
    * Lighter
    * Doesn't absorb moisture into the fiber
    * Fabric absorbs water like a sponge
    * Dries faster
    * Wears better
    * Non-scratchy
    * Stinks (good if you want solitude)
    * Easier to clean
    * Artificial fiber
    * New! Improved! (in the 1970s and 1980s)

    Better about wool
    * Better insulation when damp
    * Retains cushioning when damp
    * Water resistant--wets slowly (the original soft shell)
    * Merino Wool is non-scratchy (other kinds can be scratchy)
    * Non-stinky
    * Natural fiber
    * Slow but effective wicker
    * Doesn't melt (cooking, fire sparks, etc)
    * Fire resistant
    * New! Improved! (in the 2000s)

    Wool's superior performance when damp is why it has never been displaced as the fabric of choice for socks.

    Wool was the standard for winter hiking insulation (hats, shirts, sweaters, jackets, mittens, socks) up to the 1970s when pile came on the market. (I still have my Scottish pile jacket. It didn't pill like that Patagucci and Chuck Roast stuff...) More recently, Merino wool and new manufacturing treatments have brought wool back. (Outdoor clothing and gear is just another fashion industry--they have to change things to keep the sales up even if they have to return to an older material/technology.)

    FWIW, I have wool long underwear (Stil-Longs) from the 1970s. It is nice and comfortable Merino wool--just like the newer (New! Improved!) stuff.

    Doug
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougPaul View Post
    Oh! You mean you wanted a serious answer?

    Not necessarily but I knew you couldn't resist.
    Last edited by Little Rickie; 01-05-2010 at 12:27 PM. Reason: Am I ever serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erugs View Post
    The fact that it is made of recycled plastic is a plus.
    Is recycling plastic better than recycling grass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I don't believe we should be exploiting animals and making them suffer for our own comfort.

    If you want to see suffering look at an unshorn sheep in June.
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