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    need quick Telemark gear help/recs please

    - Boots: Any known as wider (wanted) or narrower (to avoid) ? Garmont, Scarpa, Black Diamond, Crispi ?

    - Skis: I'm seeing K2 Piste Pipe (a 2007 model new on closeout) skis on sale in the right size. Any strong ski opinions ?

    - Bindings: 3 pin ? Voile ? Rottefella ?

    I'm seeing some stuff on sale and would like to gear up soon. I'm Brand Newbie to Tele; experienced alpine, AT, XC, though. thanks for help or gear specific links.
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    Hi! You may or not be aware, but,

    www.telemarktips.com has a REALLY good forum section you can search for info on the brands - great for newbies!!!!!
    Yay for winter!!!!!

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    thanks.

    I am working through that site and the other threads here, like this one. Just wanted some basic info on the boot widths, binding type preferred and if anyone had an opinion on those K2 Piste Pipes.

    EDIT: Also "rocker" input; I know what it is, should I get those type of skis.

    PS: I understand this is often asked, I am searching prior threads, but had those specific questions.
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    I hear scarpa t1s run on the narrow side. thats as much as I know, other than that tele gear isnt cheap. Ragged mnt on 16 in N Conway has a lot of tele gear

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    Looks like they would be great for resort skiing. Are you buying ski's for that?
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    just getting started, trying to extend the winter season. I'm sure I'll start at the resorts, but I hate buying gear I'll outgrow in a season or 2. I may start with my Atomic Chugach skis (currently AT setup) with a decent binding and boot that I'd switch to a better tele ski in a year or 2.
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    AT setup will get you there. With either full skins or kicker skins you will be able to do rolling hills or steeper terrain. For cross country trails you'll use skinny skis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrain48 View Post
    I hear scarpa t1s run on the narrow side. thats as much as I know, other than that tele gear isnt cheap. Ragged mnt on 16 in N Conway has a lot of tele gear
    meant to say wider t1s run on the wider side

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    Scarpa boots tend to be narrow. Don't recall about the others (call an REI and ask for a ski salesman--they generally know this kind of info.)

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    Checked out the reviews in some old issues of Couloir and Backcountry...
    K2 Piste Pipe is designed as a half-pipe ski. Heavy. Good on groomed surfaces. Probably not so good in the BC. The twin tip can make mounting a skin difficult (a squared-off tail is better).

    FWIW, I have bought skis with high all-mountain ratings--good on groomed surfaces and in the BC. (I have K2 World Piste and K2 Piste Stinx.)

    Haven't tried a rocker ski myself. The rocker makes skiing in deep powder easier (built-in reverse camber) but in effect shortens the ski and reduces stability on harder surfaces.

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    You want a cable Tele binding to drive a ski like this.
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    Backcountry and Couloir (now merged with Backcountry) Mags have a yearly ski review issue. IMO, worth checking out.

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    Scarpa generally are for narrower, lower volume feet. Garmont work better for wider, high volume feet. But you really need to try them on for proper sizing. I'd never buy tele boots without trying them on for a while in the store unless you already know your size in that particular model.

    Not sure why you'd want the K2 Piste Pipes for tele if you're not going to be in the park. There are much better options out there. Try Teleturnaround on telemarktips.com for some good gear.

    More important than the skis (IMO) are the bindings. They don't ski the same, and can have a huge impact on your learning experience and enjoyment. Do you want releaseable bindings? If so, your choices are a bit more limited. I currently ski on Voile Hardwire CRBs inbounds and Switchbacks in the backcountry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brambor View Post
    AT setup will get you there. With either full skins or kicker skins you will be able to do rolling hills or steeper terrain. For cross country trails you'll use skinny skis.
    Yeah, been there. Want to try Tele.

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    You want a cable Tele binding to drive a ski like this.
    Agree. I was asking about cabled 3 pin vs the other cabled no pin style or ntn.

    Quote Originally Posted by David Metsky
    Not sure why you'd want the K2 Piste Pipes for tele if you're not going to be in the park.
    Just saw they were cheap, first look, already moved on. Concentrating on bindings now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougPaul View Post
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    Haven't tried a rocker ski myself. The rocker makes skiing in deep powder easier (built-in reverse camber) but in effect shortens the ski and reduces stability on harder surfaces.

    Doug
    I cant speak for skis but from a snowboarding standpoint I have tried all three options on various snow surfaces and this is what I have found. Camber is your traditional ski or snowboard it holds and edge well at all speeds less float in powder. Reverse Camber Good in powder very flimsy on the hardpack conditions we see at resorts in the east, I liked this the least. Hybrid which is camber underfoot and reverse camber (aka rocker) on the tip and tail. This IMO is the best of both worlds. Spent a whole day at Jay peak on this setup and turning in powder and tree riding was much easier and it held a great edge on those famous windblown icy Jay Peak trails. For this reason both my resort setup and splitboard setup are hybrids with both rocker and camber

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    +1 for the Voile switchback, my current BC binding. But I have read they might not handle heavier skiers and really hard skiing as well as a couple other brands, etc. I'm light, so they've been great for me. Inbounds I'm on Rottefella R8 with good results.

    I agree with Dave on the boots. I have a narrow low volume foot, Scarpa fits well, I know Garmont is higher volume, because they feel boxy on me.

    For skis, my K2 Work Stinx do everything well inbounds - you might still be able to find a pair of these somewhere on sale. In the end, you will need an inbounds ski and a backcountry ski; I don't think one ski can really do it all well when you consider weight, etc. BC I'm on Madshus Annum (formerly Karhu XCD Guide) and I like 'em.

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    Another +1 for the Voile Switchback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    Agree. I was asking about cabled 3 pin vs the other cabled no pin style or ntn.
    I have a pair of Voile 3-pin cable bindings on a pair of light-weight Tele skis (Tua Traverse). I normally use them with leather boots without the cables. I use plastic boots (T2 or T3) with a heavier non-pin Tele binding for the heavier Tele skis.

    FWIW, I have used Superloops, G3 Targas, and Voile CRB hardwire bindings and am happy with all three. (All several years old. Don't have any NTN gear.)

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