Hiking Food Suggestions for Winter, Above Treeline

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I was atop Mt. Washington this morning, eating my typical summit sandwich and a really cold apple, and I realized I'd like to do better than that. Thus, I'm looking for suggestions for lunch items for winter hiking in extreme conditions, above treeline in the cold and wind, possibly on the move. Obviously I will seek shelter - as I did today in the doorway of the Tip-Top house - but if I were to be doing a Presi traverse, for example, what shelter I do come across will be minimal at best, it will still be freezing, and my caloric intake will have to be really high. Should I just chow various salty-sweet bars and gummy cubes of sugar and potassium and grin and bear it? If someone can even live on such things. I do consume various bars, usually one-per-hike as a mid-morning pick-me-up. In addition to the aforementioned sandwich and apple, I also bring homemade GORP+, wheat crisps or something, dried apricots, and now some Fig Newtons (got that one from Brobishaud). Yet, I'm hoping for better eats that still make sense. I'd love to melt some snow in my JetBoil and have a hot trail-side meal like a curry or stew or something, but that won't be practical on most hikes.

I figure some of you will have some ideas that I haven't even considered.
 
I prefer foods which go down easily with a minimum of water and with a maximum of calories and fast energy. Minimize stopping time to avoid chilling. Peanuts(oil + salt), granola bars (190 cal), chocolate bars (190 cal), and peanut M&Ms. Gorp and the like are not a bad choices at all. The junkier the better. Common sandwich bread is especially bad when cold. I take wraps which are easier to eat when cold and high in sodium. Wraps are just a 'delivery system' for the meat and cheese, etc.

Clif bars and such get so hard when cold that they are inedible--maybe useful if you eat them early or insulate them.
 
Snickers bars, snack size,

Eat one, put frozen one in jacket, repeat

Salt Sugar and Fat, possibly protein, all in one convenient bite size package.
 
To eat foods that become hard when cold (eg chocolate), warm them up in your mouth before biting down. (Otherwise you can break a tooth.) Pre-cutting them into bite-sized pieces can also help.

I carry my gorp (typ nuts + chocolate bits) in a wide-mouth bottle. This allows me to open the bottle with mittens on and swig the gorp, through a facemask if need be.

Doug
 
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Thanks for the suggestions folks. It looks like getting into "real" food meeting the all other criteria just won't be possible, as I suspected I suppose. Bars, gorp, the usual suspects... I'll bring more. Love the wraps idea (instead of rye bread or chiabata as I'll usually take), especially about the meat and cheese delivery system, lol, I like it. That should be easier to eat.
 
Peanut butter and Nutella sandwiches are my winter favorite. I also bring a steel vacuum bottle with hot soup (temper the vacuum bottle with boiling water first.) Like others, I use the mitten-friendly, 'biner-hanging bottle of gorp for snacks.

Tim
 
Thanks for the suggestions folks. It looks like getting into "real" food meeting the all other criteria just won't be possible, as I suspected I suppose. Bars, gorp, the usual suspects... I'll bring more. Love the wraps idea (instead of rye bread or chiabata as I'll usually take), especially about the meat and cheese delivery system, lol, I like it. That should be easier to eat.
I would not worry about 'real' foods on hike days. We eat Corn chips, Peanut Butter M&M's, Nutrigrain bars, full strength Gatorade, nuts, etc. We don't stop for meals, just quick snacks.

Tim, post a picture of your outside-the-pack-Nalgene-bottles full of snacks. Great idea!
 
Make sure you make the Nutella sandwich in advance... it turns into a solid brick in the cold.

I always pre-make sandwiches. These two (PB + Nutella) have always been quite edible, never brick-like, even in below-zero trips to Owl's Head. Cold? yes, frozen? slightly, but I think the higher fat content keeps them still easily chewed without risk to a tooth.

Tim
 
A winter sandich for me is a PB & J. For high fat & protein lunch, summer sausage (presliced) and crackers in a firm (like Tupperware) container to protect the crackers works well - mostly I carry just a PB & J. I don't carry any kind of chocolate bar or granola bar - they get like rocks. OK in summer, not winter. My gorp container is a small Nalgene. I used to put it on a 'biner on my pack strap but it flopped too much, so now I put it in the small side pouch (Dana Wet Rib) that attaches near my waist, along with a small folding saw for blowdowns and anything else I need to get at quickly. I also carry 2 or 3 liters of hot spiced tea, and add snow when the Nalgene is about 1/2 empty or so. Much less than that and the snow stay slushy and never totally melts. Any Nalgene carried in an external water bottle parka goes in upside down - the threads tend to freeze less quickly in that position.

For a high-sugar food (about the same caloric boost as a GU or a granola bar), I carry 3 or 4 dried pinapple circles. Since they're low-moisture, they stay edible in cold weather. Hannaford's carries them. Look in stores which have a bulk-food section.
 
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I have a wide mouth thermos & put in hot chili, stew or something similar. It weighs a little more but it is worth it. Nothing better than a hot meal on a cold summit.
 
Tim, post a picture of your outside-the-pack-Nalgene-bottles full of snacks. Great idea!

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I hang it from a biner, which itself is on the shoulder strap, enabling it to hang by my side and then slide up for easy access - I do the same thing for the Nalgene cozies. I like the narrow mouth for gorp - less danger of spillage.

Tim
 
Excellent, guys. Thanks for all the great ideas. Cool about the thermos full of hot goodness. I love that. For gorp I use something along the lines of a grated cheese shaker: open up the wide part with mittens without a problem and I pour the gorp in my mouth. Very simple and effective. I am thinking about getting a couple of those insulated cozies, though I do worry I won't like them hanging like that. Regarding real food, it's just a preference. I don't eat much "junk" off the trail so the idea of eating them on the trail is something I may have to live with to a degree.
 
I don't eat much "junk" off the trail so the idea of eating them on the trail is something I may have to live with to a degree.
You don't have to. If you re-read the above posts, and those which will surely follow, you should be able to find foods you like, have little processing, and have the energy/caloric goals you need for winter hiking.
 
No shortage of good advice on this thread. What I do in winter is cut various bars (Lara, Chocolate, Cliff, Protein etc.) into bite-size pieces that go into Ziplock bags in my breast pockets. I leave the zip-locks and the pockets open for easy access to my food and this enables me to eat on the move.
I also blend my own protein drink with added fruit, ground flax and sugar. This concoction enables one to take on fuel very quickly.
 
I am thinking about getting a couple of those insulated cozies, though I do worry I won't like them hanging like that.
Tim and I have discussed this while on the trail. I told him it would not work well for bushwhacking, or very narrow trails that sometimes are the case in Winter. But he has not had any problems with it.
 
I've been using traditional GORP (Raisins, honey-roasted peanuts, & dark chocolate M&Ms) for years, it's much more palatable than Clif bars or the like, and cheaper.

Last winter I started making (whole wheat) wraps w/salami slices (Abruzzi or Sopressata), Herbes de Provence (sprinkle liberally on meat & cheese), and slices of Cabot cheese (Seriously Sharp Cheddar, Pepper Jack, or Habenero Cheddar). Very yummy and compact.

In the late fall & winter I carry a thermos of hot tea with lots of honey or Vermont Maple Syrup.

The ultimate energy-to-weight food is olive oil. Just take a nips out of a bottle. Some people flavor it with garlic salt or other ingredients.
 
For winter hikes, I cut my Nutella or Almond Butter sandwiches into long strips. If they get frozen, they are bite-width, so are easier to eat. A friend has carried bite-sized bagel pieces along with bite-size cheese in a baggie, which seems to work well, too.
 
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