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    Quote Originally Posted by peakbagger View Post
    Not sure if the last few posts are particularly productive. Its going back on a stereotype from years past. Sort of like all hikers are hippies.Its easy to set up the us versus them attitude but like it or not hunters fill the niche that predators used to fill and due to unnatural development patterns introduced by people there are some major imbalances in the animal population that are partially offset by hunters. There some pretty good research that whitetail deer are substantially changing the woods due to overpopulation and who can forget that there is a very direct link between deer populations and Lyme Disease. Deer and hunters do not tend to be a big issue in the majority of the whites although the Lakes region and the WOC area of the Whites do have more of population. I have never been a hunter but the ones I know are responsible folks who like to get outdoors and appreciate the woods. As there are irresponsible hikers there are irresponsible hunters.

    To link up with a recent thread, hunters and fisherman contribute heavily towards Fish and Game. Without their license fees there wouldn't be a professional rescue service available to do the S&Rs. Various federal taxes on hunting supplies are routed back to the state for land conservation and non game animal research. Although I hike year round, the vast majority of hunting in the whites tends to be in the "shoulder season" when there are far less hikers in the woods. I also realize that the vast majority of hunting tends to be near roads so they tend to be an issue for only the beginning and end of a hike. I expect that a lot of the animus between hikers and hunters are firearms. I was exposed to firearms when I was young a realize the sound carries for much farther then the bullet does. For someone not familiar with this, they tend vastly overestimate the risk associated when they hear a shot in the woods.
    I would concur with this assessment. Hunting is part of the culture of the area and contributes to filling folks freezers whom some very much need it. It is important to keep in mind that it is "The Land of Many Uses". Much like ATV operators are now contributing to the local culture and economy. Stereotyping of any faction of the outdoor community is counterproductive whether it is in jest or not. Many of us here are multiusers of the outdoors and not just hikers. So IMO it is important to have respect of others and let's all just play nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJsName View Post
    I have no problem with people hunting for food. I am the beneficiary some some frozen venison right now actually. I don't know if I know anyone who is against hunting - in my experience any issue with it is expressed as a personal preference (e.g. 'I don't hunt', or 'I couldn't kill a deer'). I'm pretty sure if push came to shove most people would kill a deer in lieu of staving to death. While hunger might not be an issue for most people (though it's definitely a societal problem), the environmental piece is also quite important. The deer population needs culling by some means. Hunting seems like a fair solution.

    Anyone familiar with the carbon footprint of a deer vs cow (on a per pound of meat basis)? A quick googling didn't give me any obvious answers.
    I have no factual information to support it but something tells me that Deer produce less gas than Cows. https://www.motherjones.com/environm...ags-timelapse/
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    /thread drift/

    As with us, I think it matters a lot what they eat!

    /thread drift/

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    A thing that makes me feel safer around gunfire in the woods is to envision that even if a bullet (or shot, or arrow) was heading towards you from some distance, you're essentially surrounded by a wall of trees from the projectile's perspective, since any path to you is blocked by tree trunks. (This wouldn't work in a field or marsh however)
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    It helps to realize that hikers, hunters, fishermen and women, ATVers, snow machiners, birders, practitioners of shinrin yoku, skiers, boarders, and other groups have far more in common than not. We're all lovers of mountains, nature, trees, adventure, solitude and comraderie.

    We should all be working together to make sure we keep the public lands we all benefit from. The real enemies are those working to take our lands from us.

    I don't have any issues with any responsible members of these groups. Try to take our public lands and I have a serious problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJsName View Post
    Anyone familiar with the carbon footprint of a deer vs cow (on a per pound of meat basis)? A quick googling didn't give me any obvious answers.
    Google "deer milk".

    I don't know about the carbon footprint print, but milking deer seems like it would be more difficult than a cow.

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