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    For some reason the NH tourist bureau doesn't seem to publicize the leeches that infest most of the ponds in northern NH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    I did Nancy Pond Trail to Carrigain Notch as an overnight that weekend. I didn't think the black flies or mosquitoes were bad at all. Wore shorts and t-shirt all day SAT and didn't put any repellent on until I reached Norcross Pond. Mosquitoes SUN morning were pretty stout though on Signal Ridge Trail. Were you one of the 4 guys fishing at the rock dam on Norcross SAT afternoon?
    IMO this is an excellent example of how the bugs can be so weather dependent. Saturday was a nice warm and breezy day which makes a big difference in the presence of bugs compared to Sunday which was much more still and humid. Geography seems to play a huge part also. Higher elevation and breezy sure beats low down, boggy and grassy.
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    Yesterday, 6/17 mosquitoes were bad on Dry River Trail but black flies were bad on Dry River Cutoff and Mt Clinton Trail. I used a headset.

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    I'm very spoiled right now. We are on vacation in the Black Hills of South Dakota. It's heaven on earth for climbing and hiking. And they have no bug season. None. I saw no bugs today. My host has lived here 15 years, and he said in 15 years he has swatted 4 mosquitoes.

    Why do we live in the Northeast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCD View Post
    I'm very spoiled right now. We are on vacation in the Black Hills of South Dakota. It's heaven on earth for climbing and hiking. And they have no bug season. None. I saw no bugs today. My host has lived here 15 years, and he said in 15 years he has swatted 4 mosquitoes.

    Why do we live in the Northeast?
    I'd love to get some trail recommendations for that area for hiking (I'm not a climber). I had randomly come across that earlier in the year researching alternative hiking trips to off the beaten path areas and 7,000 footers and thought it looked pretty cool. Hopefully you'll have a trip report with some photos on here at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    I did Nancy Pond Trail to Carrigain Notch as an overnight that weekend. I didn't think the black flies or mosquitoes were bad at all. Wore shorts and t-shirt all day SAT and didn't put any repellent on until I reached Norcross Pond. Mosquitoes SUN morning were pretty stout though on Signal Ridge Trail. Were you one of the 4 guys fishing at the rock dam on Norcross SAT afternoon?
    Yes! I was the guy taking off the knee brace next to the ancient Kelty frame pack (which is the most comfortable pack I've ever carried). Only, we weren't fishing. Just hanging out. I remember a hiker (you, probably) who headed down into the Pemi. How about that?

    I suspect you were moving faster than we were (on account of me, mostly) and that explains why you didn't notice the bugs as much. Also, one of my buddies is birder and he often stopped to listen for birds. I should have noted that we first started noticing the bugs when we stopped for lunch #1 at the base of the cascades and as normal, the black flies were worse closer to the water. Had you stopped by the Pond, I suspect you, like us, would have noticed the black flies. We were swarmed but it was manageable with head nets. Same thing climbing Nancy. Things were fine if we were moving. But we got swarmed when we stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave.m View Post
    Yes! I was the guy taking off the knee brace next to the ancient Kelty frame pack (which is the most comfortable pack I've ever carried). Only, we weren't fishing. Just hanging out. I remember a hiker (you, probably) who headed down into the Pemi. How about that?

    I suspect you were moving faster than we were (on account of me, mostly) and that explains why you didn't notice the bugs as much. Also, one of my buddies is birder and he often stopped to listen for birds. I should have noted that we first started noticing the bugs when we stopped for lunch #1 at the base of the cascades and as normal, the black flies were worse closer to the water. Had you stopped by the Pond, I suspect you, like us, would have noticed the black flies. We were swarmed but it was manageable with head nets. Same thing climbing Nancy. Things were fine if we were moving. But we got swarmed when we stopped.
    I remember that. I definitely noticed the black flies on the "dam" of the pond but they weren't bothering me too much. I had applied a few spritzes of Benz100 on the other side of lake when I stopped to take some pictures. I only lingered for a few minutes though at either end of pond to catch the views and a snack. If I had realized how easy the descent is from the pond down to the valley floor I probably would have hung out longer. That is a curiously level and comfortable stretch of trail for NH. Really enjoyed the whole area even with the bugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    If I had realized how easy the descent is from the pond down to the valley floor I probably would have hung out longer. That is a curiously level and comfortable stretch of trail for NH. Really enjoyed the whole area even with the bugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    I remember that. I definitely noticed the black flies on the "dam" of the pond but they weren't bothering me too much. I had applied a few spritzes of Benz100 on the other side of lake when I stopped to take some pictures. I only lingered for a few minutes though at either end of pond to catch the views and a snack. If I had realized how easy the descent is from the pond down to the valley floor I probably would have hung out longer. That is a curiously level and comfortable stretch of trail for NH. Really enjoyed the whole area even with the bugs.
    Yeah, the stretch is quite nice for backpacking, having done it the reverse (up from Stillwater) at night in later fall, I was pleasantly surprised how gentle it was given I was battling some mega-chaffage. The crossings were fairly simple, but could be hard at high-water I imagine. Glad you got to enjoy it. I suspect that most people will never venture that far into the Valley, so I think the 'secret' is safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJsName View Post
    Yeah, the stretch is quite nice for backpacking, having done it the reverse (up from Stillwater) at night in later fall, I was pleasantly surprised how gentle it was given I was battling some mega-chaffage. The crossings were fairly simple, but could be hard at high-water I imagine. Glad you got to enjoy it. I suspect that most people will never venture that far into the Valley, so I think the 'secret' is safe.
    Yes I think I've been in there 4 or 5 times now, this being my first overnight and the first time on an epic 29 mile day hike loop starting at Signal Ridge parking area. It definitely has a nice, remote feel to it and as much as I love summit views and above treeline cruising trips through areas like this can be very enjoyable. And with such long approaches and no 4k's I doubt it will get much more popular unless someone comes up with a deep mud, blowdown stepover list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    Yes I think I've been in there 4 or 5 times now, this being my first overnight and the first time on an epic 29 mile day hike loop starting at Signal Ridge parking area. It definitely has a nice, remote feel to it and as much as I love summit views and above treeline cruising trips through areas like this can be very enjoyable. And with such long approaches and no 4k's I doubt it will get much more popular unless someone comes up with a deep mud, blowdown stepover list.
    Haha - sounds like you visited the Shoal Pond trail!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJsName View Post
    Haha - sounds like you visited the Shoal Pond trail!
    Yes I have. The lower sections near Stillwater Junction are pretty boring and irritating, similar to Dry River Trail in the middle sections after the camp sites near Isolation Jct. The upper sections through the bogs and actual Shoal Pond are pretty awesome though. Now I usually come in there from North from either Zealand or Ethan Pond. Southern sections of Thoreau Falls Trail kinda suck too. Gotta take the good with the bad I guess.
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