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    More Fallout From Darmouth Outing Club Mishap

    Looks like the dust has not settled yet from last year's DOC missing hiker event.

    Now no more PE credits for hiking or outdoor trips. (Metsky and Spencer I think you're grandfathered. Whew!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisB View Post
    Looks like the dust has not settled yet from last year's DOC missing hiker event.

    Now no more PE credits for hiking or outdoor trips. (Metsky and Spencer I think you're grandfathered. Whew!)
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    To Quote This Article from the Union Leader:"Student Arun Anand, 21, of Pennsylvania, went missing sometime on May 11 of last year during a hike at Mt. Moosilauke, prompting a New Hampshire Fish and Game search. Anand had reportedly decided to turn around and left his group to head back by himself to the Moosilauke Ravine Lodge, according to Fish and Game reports".

    To Quote an earlier Article from The Dartmouth: "Jordan said that he was told Anand, who was not familiar with hiking, had split from the group at around 8:30 a.m. on Saturday because he did not feel he was prepared. The group encountered winter conditions, and Jordan said that the group instructed Anand to head down the trail. New Hampshire Fish and Game was notified that he was missing around 9 p.m. Saturday, according to Jordan"
    https://www.thedartmouth.com/article...unt-moosilauke

    IMO these are conflicting statements and could potentially imply a different and or overlapping issue. The Union Leader article reads as if the decision to return to the trailhead was solely his decision. Where as The Dartmouth article implies that leadership was involved with the decision to return. Maybe it is just a matter of semantics but both quotes imply a leadership issue but from different degrees. Any which way being left alone really must have sucked. Thank goodness this poor student was OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiguy View Post
    To Quote This Article from the Union Leader:"Student Arun Anand, 21, of Pennsylvania, went missing sometime on May 11 of last year during a hike at Mt. Moosilauke, prompting a New Hampshire Fish and Game search. Anand had reportedly decided to turn around and left his group to head back by himself to the Moosilauke Ravine Lodge, according to Fish and Game reports".

    To Quote an earlier Article from The Dartmouth: "Jordan said that he was told Anand, who was not familiar with hiking, had split from the group at around 8:30 a.m. on Saturday because he did not feel he was prepared. The group encountered winter conditions, and Jordan said that the group instructed Anand to head down the trail. New Hampshire Fish and Game was notified that he was missing around 9 p.m. Saturday, according to Jordan"
    https://www.thedartmouth.com/article...unt-moosilauke

    IMO these are conflicting statements and could potentially imply a different and or overlapping issue. The Union Leader article reads as if the decision to return to the trailhead was solely his decision. Where as The Dartmouth article implies that leadership was involved with the decision to return. Maybe it is just a matter of semantics but both quotes imply a leadership issue but from different degrees. Any which way being left alone really must have sucked. Thank goodness this poor student was OK.
    That's interesting, but I'm not sure it matters. Regardless of whether the student made the decision or the leader, they never should have let him go down alone. Even if he just turned around and descended, they should have sent someone to accompany him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra View Post
    That's interesting, but I'm not sure it matters. Regardless of whether the student made the decision or the leader, they never should have let him go down alone. Even if he just turned around and descended, they should have sent someone to accompany him.
    Yep. What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra View Post
    That's interesting, but I'm not sure it matters. Regardless of whether the student made the decision or the leader, they never should have let him go down alone. Even if he just turned around and descended, they should have sent someone to accompany him.
    Yes what should have been done was that someone should have gone down with him. The difference that the two quotes exemplify is the mindset of the decision making process from a leadership standpoint. Which could be different paradigms or skill set training to avoid the situation from occurring again. These two quotes potentially describe two different scenarios which a leader should be prepared to handle. Which ever it was either their training and or mindset from a leadership standpoint was inappropriately handled. Sometimes the learning can be done ahead of time and sometimes it is in the field. The system failed in this case so it is important to address each and every angle of the incident. Poor reporting can also lead to bad information being communicated and future failures and breakdowns.
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