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    Quote Originally Posted by TCD View Post
    I have wrapped up winter activities. A couple day earlier this week I was in central Quebec, where there is still a massive snow pack, skiing fresh powder. Now I'm home in the Adirondacks, traveling in south facing areas.
    I was in the Chic Chocs this weekend past. Arrived just after 20 inch snowfall, gorgeous skiing and snowshoeing. Drove back to Halifax on Monday. Local day hikes for me for the foreseeable future (maybe some cycling). Social distancing always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    Lot of resorts out West doing the same thing. By the end of March there won't be too many places to go a whole lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maineguy View Post
    So, I'm not supposed to go hiking because I might become injured and then be sent to a hospital which is overloaded? This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this website, and I've been here for about 17 years.
    What makes it ridiculous? The idea that anyone would get hurt, or that medical services are likely to be overrun in the coming weeks? Or something else I am missing?
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    I headed over to Wildcat yesterday morning and they have signs posted with the following,

    Caution! this is your decision point
    Ski area is closed
    No patrol, no maintenance for recreational use, no services
    All access is at your own risk
    No sledding
    Unmarked hazards may be encountered at any time (including construction, heavy machinery, man-made objects, variable conditions, avalanches, & other hazards)

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    Visit our website at skiwildcat.com/mountain-stats
    Information about closure status, please visit skiwildcat.com
    Last edited by dailey7779; 03-20-2020 at 04:09 PM.

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    Sorry I don't see the ridiculous. How many global pandemics have we encountered in the last 17 years? To err on the side of caution to protect our friends in the mountains seems like the right way to go IMHO. People will all make their own decisions but old eric presents a valid reasonable point of view, I would hate to see hikers compared with the spring breakers on the Florida beaches. Listen to Dr. Fauci, think about the worst possible outcomes of your decisions. Hope everyone stays well and safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineguy View Post
    So, I'm not supposed to go hiking because I might become injured and then be sent to a hospital which is overloaded? This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on this website, and I've been here for about 17 years.
    Yeah baby, it's all about YOU!!!!

    You mght want to give this a read before you take a hike.

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    Last edited by ChrisB; 03-20-2020 at 08:55 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisB View Post
    Yeah baby, it's all about YOU!!!!

    You mght want to give this a read before you take a hike.

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    Oh please! Like this article is going to tell me something I haven't already read or seen from so many news outlets. I am going to be driving from an area with maybe a couple of infected persons ( a large area) to a virtually person-free area and hike. With any luck, the closest I will get to anyone is a safe distance on the trail. I just don't see any danger to myself or to others. From the looks of trail reports, neither do plenty of others. If you are worried, then stay home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePS View Post
    Sorry I don't see the ridiculous. How many global pandemics have we encountered in the last 17 years?
    AIDS, Zika, MERS, H1N1, SARS, Ebola...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshandBaron View Post
    AIDS, Zika, MERS, H1N1, SARS, Ebola...
    Actually very few of these were "global," in the sense that they easily jumped continents to spread by community infection.

    Like the U.S. and NYC, Italy was slow to impose Draconian measures to limit movement and contact.

    Now such measures are being discussed for NH. (Exeter Hospital CEO, state and local leaders urge governor to order shelter in place )

    Not sure how they will/would/might limit travel into our state. But a hike will probably be considered non-essential travel/activity.

    Given the lack of comprehensive testing, we really don't know how many cases exist in any given area. Maineguy believes his turf has few if any. I hope he's correct.

    Our governor just banned gatherings of 50 or more, so I guess my Over-50 Meetup hikes are a thing of the past!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dailey7779 View Post
    I headed over to Wildcat yesterday morning and they have signs posted with the following,

    Caution! this is your decision point
    Ski area is closed
    No patrol, no maintenance for recreational use, no services
    All access is at your own risk
    No sledding
    Unmarked hazards may be encountered at any time (including construction, heavy machinery, man-made objects, variable conditions, avalanches, & other hazards)
    Thanks for the correction to my interpretation of their policy, Chris!

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    What’s ridiculous is that someone from Maine desperately needs to go to New Hampshire to have Outdoor Fun when they could just give it a break for a week or two for the common good. Not to mention doing something local is well within reason. What I’ve seen in the MWV is a lot of Community Support and cooperation widely in the nature for the common good. If everyone were to do that everywhere we might just get through this sooner than later.
    Last edited by skiguy; 03-21-2020 at 12:27 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshandBaron View Post
    AIDS, Zika, MERS, H1N1, SARS, Ebola...
    AIDs is a pandemic, but it's not contagious like COVID-19. I regularly interact with people who are HIV+ and those interactions are not risky.

    The rest, while serious, never caused Wildcat to close early (hey look, I tied to back to the OP!).
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    If you've ever hiked in the Dolomites or around the Italian-Austrian border, you've probably been through Bergammo.

    Here's an article that describes conditions there and how the locals population is struggling to survive / contain this pandemic.

    With 53,000 cases and 5,000 dead, Italy is reeling and its health care system at the breaking point. Serious stuff indeed
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    I'll be back in CT when we shut everything down Monday at 8:00PM. I've been dining in and watching movies when I've not been hiking from our timeshare. Our week and with no restaurants and stores open, Ragged was open Tuesday, no one else wanted to come up. While trail traffic and the streets of North Conway have been lightly traveled, their are plenty of tourist still here. After Friday's wet start, I went to the Nature Conservancy's property in the Green Hills Preserve & did the two mile Pudding Pond loop. When I got back, there were several cars there, mine from CT, one from RI, one from NY, one from ME and three from NH.

    Oddly, both NY & CT's Governors have said that outdoor solo recreation, like running, walking and hiking are fine. They actually said "hiking", locally, was fine. (is Gov. Cuomo a 46er? I'm confident Gov. Lamont is just copying what NY did.) Now, many of us here hike solo and are as comfortable in the Whites as we are locally. (It took my son being in scouts for me to even come close to knowing as much about CT trails as I do about the Whites. I've only been on Monadnock and Greylock more than I have on Pierce) One could see where walking along roads where drivers are not used to seeing pedestrians may be more hazardous. (Someone who drives on the main road that my street is off has a drinking problem. In one 300 foot area near a small pond, there were (at last count) 40 1/2 pint and pint vodka bottles thrown down the embankment. They are about equally split between 80 and 100 proof)

    I'm fortunate that I have hiking in town and state parks in my town. Are the Coos County Medical resources stressed? They aren't treating skiers and snowmobilers', their standard winter trauma cases. (In February, I got to see how many people the Pat's Peak first aid crew sends to Concord on a Saturday night. I have to think a typical weekend at the NH resorts has each of them sending 4-8 from each resort.) In NYC, New Rochelle and SF, the urban and suburban health care facilities are under stress. Is Gorham? If they are not, are their medical professionals being sent out of state?

    Large Meet up groups and Facebook groups should be avoided. Some people would argue solo hiking is irresponsible. (not me) I'll be haunting the woods in my town starting Monday. On 3/21/2020 there were at least two dozen people on Kearsarge North, mostly couples and a couple of young families. Some with gear that was overmatched for the conditions or without any traction at all. Where they are from wasn't really relevant, being prepared was more important.

    Keeping those with underlying health conditions and Senior homes safe is important, keeping it out of Senior homes is important as once it gets in like it did in WA, it spreads quickly. Sheltering in the elderly is crucial as healthy young people could have it and not really think anything is wrong. Or tell anyone as parents of teenagers can attest. Seeing their grandparents could be fatal to them though.
    Last edited by Mike P.; 03-21-2020 at 08:14 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maineguy View Post
    I am going to be driving from an area with maybe a couple of infected persons ( a large area) to a virtually person-free area and hike.
    Confirmed cases might be low in your area, but community spread happens quickly and well before positives start making news. Assume the number of actual cases is much much higher. It can be spread asymptomatically, so people who feel fine can spread it. The limiting factor of calculating confirmed cases in most spots is testing availability.

    Hiking is a good way to exercise and avoid people, just be extra careful as the ramifications of an injury are weirdly augmented right now.
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