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    Senior Member Puma concolor's Avatar
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    Whiteface Memorial Highway - Ski Conditions

    Anyone here been up it this season or have good intel on conditions? Snow conditions at Whiteface Mountain ski resort suggest the road is probably not yet good skiing.

    Got my first pair of Alpine Touring skis for XMas and the boots are arriving today. For my ultimate planned use, some of the various summit roads around NY and New England are the way to go. Or at least to start until I get competent at it.

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    Useful link:

    https://www.betatrails.org/conditions

    Although you are probably already familiar with that report. I have no first hand info...

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    Senior Member Puma concolor's Avatar
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    Thanks TCD! Was unfamiliar with that website but now have it bookmarked.

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    Keep in mind that the Whiteface Toll Road doesn't require AT gear, or even metal edges. It's a pretty boring descent that might be better on tele or backcountry XC gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Metsky View Post
    It's a pretty boring descent that might be better on tele or backcountry XC gear.
    Why not go for it then on Skate Skis? All kidding aside I agree with you although not boring from an aesthetic standpoint it's worth doing. I've done it on double cambered metal edge skis with low leathers and it has been quite fun. Conditions can be very variable from top to bottom like a lot of BC skiing and of course best in low winds after not too much fresh Snow. OK call me an idealist. Good luck Puma. Hope you get the goods!
    "I'm getting up and going to work everyday and I am stoked. That does not suck!"__Shane McConkey

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    Senior Member Puma concolor's Avatar
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    Thanks guys. I’m pretty stoked about trying them out (not sure if saying “stoked” is allowable after 50, but whatever ). Anyway, I’m a very solid downhill resort skier but have never done cross country or backcountry skiing. So for this season, I just want to get the hang of uphill skiing and skins and switching back and forth between uphill and downhill modes. So boring is not necessarily a bad thing.

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    Speeding up your transitions is one of the biggest ways to have a more enjoyable day in the backcountry. Lots of really good videos online.

    A few thoughts:
    * My buddies showed me how to get my skins off without taking off my skis - Big time saver, especially in deep snow. Requires less balance/dexterity than I expected.

    * Doing multiple laps? Keep your skins in your jacket on the descent to keep them warm/dry.

    * Build up a checklist/system for your transitions - At the top, I work "top to bottom" for every transition:
    1) Changeover jacket for the descent, change handwear if needed, put on helmet, put pack back on
    2) Convert skis from touring to downhill
    3) Skins off, tuck into jacket (they stay in place because I have my pack on with the waist belt shut)
    4) Convert boots to downhill

    * You're not going to be in avy terrain, but I'm a really big fan of BC ski specific packs (hey, it's an excuse to buy another pack...) because they keep the weight near your center of gravity for where it needs to be for skiing and they have a specific pouch for your avy gear. I like the Osprey Kamber series.
    Warning: BigNSlow may not actually be all that slow

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    Senior Member Puma concolor's Avatar
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    Solid advice, bignslow. Thanks for that. Had already been thinking about a more suitable backpack than the massive ones I normally carry for hiking/mountaineering (75 L is my small pack lol), but am probably geared out at this point for the year after spending a small fortune on the skis/boots.

    Will definitely develop a checklist similar to that.

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