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    The Swiss Bob (which I own) is TOO fast most of the time. The plastic 'spoon' is my favorite tool right now.

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    Interesting trip report on NETC for Liberty Spring Trail.

    Got an early start to beat the crowds. Microspikes up to 0.25 miles from the tenstsite then snowshoes were the way to go as the trail was still soft. Excellent snowshoe track along Franconia Ridge between Liberty and Flume. Saw one person along the ridge also wearing snowshoes and enjoying the quiet trails. On the descent from Franconia Ridge I saw around thirty hikers coming up, only one in snowshoes, 2/3 didn't have snowshoes but they did have sleds, ignorance is bliss!

    https://www.newenglandtrailcondition...?entryid=52397

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    Interesting trip report for Liberty Springs Trail on NETC

    "Got an early start to beat the crowds. Microspikes up to 0.25 miles from the tentsite then snowshoes were the way to go as the trail was still soft. Excellent snowshoe track along Franconia Ridge between Liberty and Flume. Saw one person along the ridge also wearing snowshoes and enjoying the quiet trails. On the descent from Franconia Ridge I saw around thirty hikers coming up, only one in snowshoes, 2/3 didn't have snowshoes but they did have sleds, ignorance is bliss!"

    https://www.newenglandtrailcondition...?entryid=52397

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    Quote Originally Posted by B the Hiker View Post
    Interesting trip report for Liberty Springs Trail on NETC

    "Got an early start to beat the crowds. Microspikes up to 0.25 miles from the tentsite then snowshoes were the way to go as the trail was still soft. Excellent snowshoe track along Franconia Ridge between Liberty and Flume. Saw one person along the ridge also wearing snowshoes and enjoying the quiet trails. On the descent from Franconia Ridge I saw around thirty hikers coming up, only one in snowshoes, 2/3 didn't have snowshoes but they did have sleds, ignorance is bliss!"

    https://www.newenglandtrailcondition...?entryid=52397
    That was my trail condition report! I couldn’t believe how many hikers would come up without snowshoes, made no sense to me as it would have made the burst up from the tentsite and across the ridge super annoying. What I did not know until after the hike was that it was the first day of vacation week, so in retrospect I shouldn’t have been surprised with the lack of hikers not well equipped.

    As for sleds on trails, I don’t do it but I have no issues with them as 95% of the time people know what they are doing and are respectful. But just like everything else there is always one dumbass going too fast or out of control, so I keep a look out for them around corners. Mostly, I make sure to get early starts, and am heading down while everyone is heading up. Plus, the people who don’t think of others while on the sleds are usually the ones that start a hike at noon anyway.

    As for social media and hiking, the day I care about what someone who I don’t know and doesn’t effect me posts on FB or IG is the day a quit hiking and become a grumpy old man. Hopefully I have a few more years before that happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dailey7779 View Post
    As for sleds on trails, I don’t do it but I have no issues with them as 95% of the time people know what they are doing and are respectful. But just like everything else there is always one dumbass going too fast or out of control, so I keep a look out for them around corners. Mostly, I make sure to get early starts, and am heading down while everyone is heading up. Plus, the people who don’t think of others while on the sleds are usually the ones that start a hike at noon anyway.

    As for social media and hiking, the day I care about what someone who I don’t know and doesn’t effect me posts on FB or IG is the day a quit hiking and become a grumpy old man. Hopefully I have a few more years before that happens!
    I saw a noon start on NETC and thought that must just be a single silly post but I was wrong. I know the sun is up almost an hour longer than it was in mid-December, but I can't believe all the late starts haven't popped up more for rescues. NH F&G appears to be too busy with snowmobile rescues, at least last weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dailey7779 View Post

    As for social media and hiking, the day I care about what someone who I don’t know and doesn’t effect me posts on FB or IG is the day a quit hiking and become a grumpy old man. Hopefully I have a few more years before that happens!
    The word is curmudgeonly. I would think it adds charm that grumpy doesn't connote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egilbe View Post
    The word is curmudgeonly. I would think it adds charm that grumpy doesn't connote.
    With a dash of contempt for modern technology.

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    I'll take my turn as old man shaking his fist at the cloud...

    My primary concerns with sledding on hiking trails are:

    1) Safety. There has been SAR activity over the years from folks getting severely injured while buttsledding.

    2) Trail conditions. Buttsliding often pulls snow off the trail and creates an unnatural concave surface. East Osceola has become one of the most dangerous all of standard winter 4K routes now because of bullsledding activity.


    My closest encounter was when someone lost control buttsledding down East Osceola and hit a tree so hard (in trying to avoid me) that they bent their snowshoe frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dailey7779 View Post
    As for social media and hiking, the day I care about what someone who I don’t know and doesn’t effect me posts on FB or IG is the day a quit hiking and become a grumpy old man. Hopefully I have a few more years before that happens!
    You know, you can be a grumpy old man and still hike

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket21 View Post


    I'll take my turn as old man shaking his fist at the cloud...

    My primary concerns with sledding on hiking trails are:

    1) Safety. There has been SAR activity over the years from folks getting severely injured while buttsledding.

    2) Trail conditions. Buttsliding often pulls snow off the trail and creates an unnatural concave surface. East Osceola has become one of the most dangerous all of standard winter 4K routes now because of bullsledding activity.


    My closest encounter was when someone lost control buttsledding down East Osceola and hit a tree so hard (in trying to avoid me) that they bent their snowshoe frame.

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    I generally try to live my life by creating if not an easier (at best) or equal (at worst) to those around me and next in line. I'll let someone pass me in the grocery store if they look like they are having a hard time. I hold the door to someone behind me. I clean the snow off my car. I return my cart. I don't box someone in at a parking lot. I don't snowblow into the street or so it could be plowed into my neighbor's yard. I won't leave a trail postholed up, nor will I sled down it and create an unsafe track. Of course, everyone can do as they wish, but I've taken the attitude my existence affects others, and I try to ensure the impact of that existence is a positive one.

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