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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike P. View Post
    On DT's post, I assume he means the High Peaks Info Center at Heart Lake as the Loj lot is just for guests of the Loj. Staying at the Loj or the campground may be the best way to hike out of Heart Lake very soon.
    The huge 200 car $10 lot at or near the Adirondack Loj is what I meant. Not sure what it's real name is. That's what I thought it was called.
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    "Most club members are not hikers, (but I know some are)" - Actually not the case. I've hiked with some and friends with others. I had the privilege of staying as a guest a couple of weekends when I led ADK Fall Outing hikes from the AMR. The Ausable Club used to allow non members to ride the bus with members along the Lake Road. Riders would be dropped off along the road or paddle to the Upper Lake. The practice ended when non members crowed ahead of members for spots on the bus which ended the practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike P. View Post
    For the AMR site, at least for now, I did not have to put vehicle info in my profile and for people renting cars, you wouldn't know your plate until you picked your car up.. (is there still car sharing outfits?)
    Well, then. Let the games begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peakbagr View Post
    "Most club members are not hikers, (but I know some are)" - Actually not the case. I've hiked with some and friends with others. I had the privilege of staying as a guest a couple of weekends when I led ADK Fall Outing hikes from the AMR. The Ausable Club used to allow non members to ride the bus with members along the Lake Road. Riders would be dropped off along the road or paddle to the Upper Lake. The practice ended when non members crowed ahead of members for spots on the bus which ended the practice.
    You're either old or you remember the bus from hiking with your parents. I recall reading they had recently stopped allowing hikers to ride the bus but never had the ability to ride it. (&nd I'm old)

    DT, yes, the large lot is the High Peaks Visitor Center. (The Loj has a small lot for Loj guest only) The main road is Loj Road and the dirt road full of calls parking is South Road. I'll have to visit ADK High Peaks Forum to see if Parking at Corey's has also exploded in the last couple of years.

    In the comparison between staying at the Loj VS an AMC shelter, I prefer the Loj. (In comparison, it's probably more like the Highland Center as far as being roadside, full service Breakfast and Dinner, one on Heart Lake, the other with Ammonosuc Lake just a little behind and Saco across the Street, One with Willard as the close peak with great views, the other with Mt. Jo. offering great views (Jo is the steeper climb) You can swim (wade, the swim area is shallow) at Heart Lake or take a canoe out.
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    Well I guess I'm old. Here's how I remember the bus:

    We started hiking there in 1984. Then, the bus would pick up hikers along the road. Anyone who waved at the bus could get a ride. The hikers were few; the Club members were many. I had the distinct impression that the Club members (in their dress whites) were not happy about having the dirty stinky hikers on the bus. After a couple years, the Club started charging $1 for the ride. Hiker ridership did not change; the bus riding market was inelastic to the $1 fee. After a couple more years, the Club started charging $10 for the ride. Hiker ridership still did not change; remarkably, the bus riding market was inelastic to the greatly increased $10 fee. The next year, the Club stopped allowing hikers to ride the bus.

    I learned two things: 1. Don't count on a convenience, as it may go away; 2. Today's hikers value convenience, and are willing to pay for it.

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    The one time I was near the gate when the bus went by (after the era hikers got a ride), the driver stopped, turned off the bus, removed his seat belt, got out of the bus, opened the gate, went back in the bus, put on his seat belt, started the bus, drove 50 feet, stopped the bus, took off his seat belt, got out of the bus, shut the gate, got back in the bus, put on his seat belt, started the bus, and continued driving. Apparently, either no one in the bus was willing to jump out and operate the gate, or it was forbidden.

    I did get to drive all the way to the end of the road once, but that's another story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Rankin View Post
    The one time I was near the gate when the bus went by (after the era hikers got a ride), the drive stopped, turned off the bus, removed his seat belt, got out of the bus, opened the gate, went back in the bus, put on his seat belt, started the bus, drove 50 feet, stopped the bus, took off his seat belt, got out of the bus, shut the gate, got back in the bus, put on his seat belt, started the bus, and continued driving. Apparently, either no one in the bus was willing to jump out and operate the gate, or it was forbidden.

    I did get to drive all the way to the end of the road once, but that's another story.
    That would be a fun ride. While no interaction with people on the AMR bus, I've overheard tourist children ask their parents that don't hikers know you can drive up Whiteface, why would you walk. I've had fun with that statement with other friends when we've reached the top of almost all the peaks where you can drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiguy View Post
    Absolutely..but if your going to have to pay to park why not have it reserved in advance.
    An upside to the reservation system is implicit control of hiker numbers, which I think is necessary and a good thing.

    We’ve met the enemy and he is (too many of) us,

    At a long-ago Gathering in the Dacks Hammerdee and I did a Gothics traverse. One of my lasting memories of that hike is the lousy and eroded condition of the trails. It can only be worse 20 years on.

    Baxter Park gets this and that is a major reason for their parking system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisB View Post
    An upside to the reservation system is implicit control of hiker numbers, which I think is necessary and a good thing.

    We’ve met the enemy and he is (too many of) us,

    At a long-ago Gathering in the Dacks Hammerdee and I did a Gothics traverse. One of my lasting memories of that hike is the lousy and eroded condition of the trails. It can only be worse 20 years on.

    Baxter Park gets this and that is a major reason for their parking system.
    The difference is though that BSP is tiny in comparison of the ADK or small compared to Whites. (BSP is about 1/4 the size of the High Peaks Region or the Whites and only has a couple of roads into park. Both the Whites and ADK have people living within that space also. The whole ADK Park is the size of VT)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike P. View Post
    The difference is though that BSP is tiny in comparison of the ADK or small compared to Whites. (BSP is about 1/4 the size of the High Peaks Region or the Whites and only has a couple of roads into park. Both the Whites and ADK have people living within that space also. The whole ADK Park is the size of VT)
    The parking areas discussed here can be used to access 9 46R peaks (or more if you're a super hiker). So, it's roughly comparable to the number of peaks frequently hiked inside Baxter State Park.
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    Except over on the ADK forum, there is already talk of bushwhacks and herd paths, superhikers can get there from other crowded lots like the Garden and Rooster Comb or other lots. The Whites are crowded also but I'd be curious what the comparison between the Whites and ADK as far as parking lot spaces.

    For Road parking where you don't want it, Route 73 feels more crowded than the Kanc near Lincoln Woods or on 302. (in most of the more crowded spots, lots of cars by the Pine Bend of overflow near the Hair pin on 112 would be bad also.) Parking spots aren't large enough for the usage even before the Covid-19 increase)
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    I really miss the time when the journey meant you could hitch hike to get back. Click image for larger version. 

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