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    I'm working on the 52WOAV list. No crowds whatsoever.

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    I discovered the 52WAV list several years ago after completing the NH48 which I think took me 37 years. Of course, most of that time I lived about 1200 miles from NH, so I was at a disadvantage to you locals (to me, all of New England and eastern NY is "local" to NH). It's a great list that opened my eyes to a lot of wonderful hikes on 2K and 3K peaks like the previously mentioned Percys, Mt Success, The Moats, and Welch and Dickey to name a few. I never committed to finishing the list, but I kept going back to it for ideas of what to climb next. I still managed to get 30 of the current 52 plus a couple that are now de-listed. I hope to get back to NH this summer. There are many beautiful places in the US and around the world and the mountains of NH are certainly one of them. I'm sure you all realize and appreciate that.
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    Several years ago I was on Roger's Ledge and couple of hikers in their late sixties early seventies were commenting on getting close to completing the "geriatric" hiking list. In general the 52 WAV tends to be easier/shorter/lower elevation hikes. Nothing wrong with their designation if it gets people out in the woods and spreads the use a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakbagger View Post
    Several years ago I was on Roger's Ledge and couple of hikers in their late sixties early seventies were commenting on getting close to completing the "geriatric" hiking list. In general the 52 WAV tends to be easier/shorter/lower elevation hikes. Nothing wrong with their designation if it gets people out in the woods and spreads the use a bit.
    Originally created and still maintained by “The Over The Hill Hikers Club” the list was originally meant to complement “The NH 48 Four Thousand Footers” to make a nice round 100. Although many of the hikes are shorter and lower elevated hikes I personally would not agree they are all easier. Many of the 52 what they lack in distance, not that they are all short can be quite scrappy. Also the logistics to getting to the trailheads for many of them requires more effort and the trails can be more obscure and less maintained. I think both lists have their challenges. So I would personally be less inclined to call The 52 with a View easier as those challenges are somewhat relative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiguy View Post
    Originally created and still maintained by “The Over The Hill Hikers Club” the list was originally meant to complement “The NH 48 Four Thousand Footers” to make a nice round 100. Although many of the hikes are shorter and lower elevated hikes I personally would not agree they are all easier. Many of the 52 what they lack in distance, not that they are all short can be quite scrappy. Also the logistics to getting to the trailheads for many of them requires more effort and the trails can be more obscure and less maintained. I think both lists have their challenges. So I would personally be less inclined to call The 52 with a View easier as those challenges are somewhat relative.
    I had no idea the 52 was meant to compliment the 48 to make 100. Your summary of the 52 is quite accurate, there are some that are pretty tough and some that are hard to get too. I waited on Nash Stream road to open for a month. The Baldfaces can give many 4ks a run for their money. Word on the street is Mallagalloway is no picnic to drive too, I haven't got to that one yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sierra View Post
    Word on the street is Mallagalloway is no picnic to drive too, I haven't got to that one yet.
    Yes it's a long drive but worth it. This is one of the shorter ones hiking wise but is steep with easy footing. Be sure to do the side trip out the ridge beyond the Fire Wardens Cabin. This hike is a prime example of some of the unique qualities The 52 offer over the 48.
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    Didn't become aware of the 48 until doing several visions of the 4 peaks on Franconia Ridge. Then after finding out about it, I had NH48 tunnel vision. Not sure how I first heard of 52wav, but when I did, I sat at 47 for a year and started doing 52's. Had only done Monadnock and Chocorua prior but didn't know about the list. It does get you exploring the state. Southern most 52WAV to northern most, 226 miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiguy View Post
    Although many of the hikes are shorter and lower elevated hikes I personally would not agree they are all easier.
    Yep.

    The Baldfaces in particular are probably the most difficult hike on the list, IMO. Steep, rugged, exposed terrain, and more elevation gain (3,600-ish ft. for the entire loop) than many 4Ks.

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    I loved the Baldface loop. I included Baldface Knob and Eagle Crag which are worthy destinations of their own. This is one of the top hikes in NH imo.
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    For those who want to do the Baldfaces with a bit less challenge and some nice views, swapping in Slippery Brook Trail cuts out the ledges which can be intimidating to some especially on a wet day. The blueberries are usually better on this option.

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    I've only ever done it via Slippery Brook myself - that way you can get Eastman for relatively cheap at the same time. Not sure how "bad" the ledges would be for a dog either but no need to find out if there is an alternate route.

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    If a dog can do Welch Dickey they can do the ledges on Baldface. The ledges are mostly a series of large granite steps. Its is more exposed than welch dickey ledges as the steps are narrower and the terrain steeper. There is the specific trail route and lots of potential work arounds, my guess is typical unleashed dog will just find work arounds. That said if the ledges are wet that does increase the potential for slipping for both human and dog. The granite is course which obvious can impact dogs with thin pads but my guess is less so than a stroll in the northern presidential summits. The only other caveat is on a day with a potential for showers or thunderstorms is that that steep section of trail has zero visibility to the west. The weather can move in quick and once someone tops out there is 1 mile stretch of zero cover to the summit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakbagger View Post
    If a dog can do Welch Dickey they can do the ledges on Baldface. The ledges are mostly a series of large granite steps. Its is more exposed than welch dickey ledges as the steps are narrower and the terrain steeper. There is the specific trail route and lots of potential work arounds, my guess is typical unleashed dog will just find work arounds. That said if the ledges are wet that does increase the potential for slipping for both human and dog. The granite is course which obvious can impact dogs with thin pads but my guess is less so than a stroll in the northern presidential summits. The only other caveat is on a day with a potential for showers or thunderstorms is that that steep section of trail has zero visibility to the west. The weather can move in quick and once someone tops out there is 1 mile stretch of zero cover to the summit.
    Back in 60s we had a camper slip and injure his ankle on those ledges while descending to the shelter. It had just poured during a thunderstorm as we had come over with full packs from the Blue Brook shelter. Got him to the Baldface shelter, then two of us descended to AMC Cold River Camp to enlist help. Then back up to the shelter with stokes litter followed by back down to the highway and a waiting ambulance. Oh yeah, this was all done in the dark (the litter carrying). Most accommodating people, those AMC folks.
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    The worst part of the Baldface ledges is right after the shelter. Once I was up that wet slab, the rest wasn't any worse than, say, Webster Cliff trail. Still on the terrifying 25 list though. That list is as much fun as the 52WAV.

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    Don't forget there are many of the 48'ers that can be made a lot more difficult depending on the route you take. Same is true for peaks like North Percy (take the old direct west side route for e.g.).

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