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I have been reading about the newest Rebel (SL1) coming out this month. It is said to be the smallest DSLR available. So far I haven't seen where anyone has had one in their hands to put to the test and put out a review. Supposedly it contains almost all the features that the T4I or new T5I possess but in a much smaller package. This all sounds very interesting to me as I carry a Lumix point and shoot on my chest and a Rebel XSI on my hip. Anything smaller with great picture quality sounds like a winner, specially in winter. If anyone has some info or hears of a review please post it here!
 
Thanks guys. I have seen a few previews on this camera and that Olympus looks very good too. But these manufacturers really got this digital stuff right from the very beginning. They made the lens mounts the same so you could use your old lenses. They all knew how to rope in our loyalty. I have the Canon stuff so I always look at their newest cameras coming out.
 
Tony, you really it on the nose. When Olympus came out with their DSLRs, you needed to buy a $100 adapter ring so your OM lenses would fit. But all the focus and setting f stop was trial and error as the lenses were incompatible otherwise.
If their first entry into the DSLR market hadn't been the very small, light and excellently reviewed 500 series, I would have gone Canon.
 
The SL-1 with the pancake 40mm lens would be quite the tiny SLR to carry around, for sure.
 
Tony, you really it on the nose. When Olympus came out with their DSLRs, you needed to buy a $100 adapter ring so your OM lenses would fit. But all the focus and setting f stop was trial and error as the lenses were incompatible otherwise.
If their first entry into the DSLR market hadn't been the very small, light and excellently reviewed 500 series, I would have gone Canon.
The positive thing with the Olympus here is you are technically in the Micro4/3 market which offers a standardized bayonet. Therefore their are a lot of lens offerings from multiple manufacturers. The problem that yet has been to be solved is the lenses are slow. If compactness is your goal it is a nice solution. If superior DOF is your goal it is quite not there yet. Even the SL1 which is still a DSLR only offers one fast lens in the Pancake 40mm.
 
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Even the SL1 which is still a DSLR only offers one fast lens in the Pancake 40mm.
The SL1 can take any of Canon's or third party manufacturers' EF or EF-S lenses. Some of these lenses are pretty fast...

It uses an APS-C size sensor (1.6 crop factor), the same size as the rest of the Canon Digital Rebel line. I haven't seen any detail reviews comparing it to the Canon Digital Rebels T4i and/or T5i, but the specs appear to be pretty similar.

Doug
 
The SL1 can take any of Canon's or third party manufacturers' EF or EF-S lenses. Some of these lenses are pretty fast...

It uses an APS-C size sensor (1.6 crop factor), the same size as the rest of the Canon Digital Rebel line. I haven't seen any detail reviews comparing it to the Canon Digital Rebels T4i and/or T5i, but the specs appear to be pretty similar.


Doug
Thanks for the clarification Doug. Still a bulky body IMO compared to Micro 4/3. But again what do you want? Compactness or DOF. Either way still beats hauling around the SLR body's of the 70's. It should all come together at some point if we all wait long enough.
 
Thanks for the clarification Doug. Still a bulky body IMO compared to Micro 4/3. But again what do you want? Compactness or DOF. Either way still beats hauling around the SLR body's of the 70's. It should all come together at some point if we all wait long enough.
There are a number of "scaling laws" with regard to sensor size:
(for each factor listed below, changes assuming all other factors do not change)
* Larger sensor: better resolution (constant pixel size)
* Larger sensor: smaller DoF (constant F stop)
* Larger sensor: better low light sensitivity (constant number of pixels)
* Larger sensor: longer (real) focal length required for a constant field of view
* Larger sensor: harder to make large ratio zoom
* Larger sensor: bigger, heavier camera bodies.
* Larger sensor: bigger, heavier lenses

Related factors:
* Larger pixels: better low light performance
* Larger pixels: better dynamic range
* Lens diffraction limits: depends only on F-stop,
* Most lenses are best ~F/8 (diffraction plus aberrations)

SLR bodies have to be big enough to have space to have the mirror flip up. (The mirror reflects the light into the eyepiece and flips out of the way so the light can hit the sensor when taking the picture.) The mirrorless cameras (eg Canon EOS M http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_m_ef_m_22mm_stm_kit) are smaller but cannot have optical through-the-lens viewfinders.

A number of the small P&Ses use a periscope design--the light is reflected 90 degrees and travels parallel to the face of the camera before hitting the sensor to allow smaller bodies.

Some people with large hands find it hard to hold small camera bodies. And finally, the weight of a large body and lens can help one hold a camera steady.

In summary, there is no such thing as a universally optimum camera size--it depends on what you want to do with it and how much money you want to spend.

Doug
 
I was reading about the SL1 and thinking I might take a look at it for hikes and climbs when I want small size but would still prefer a dslr. I already have a few light weight Canon lenses that would work well with it. First I have to get the other camera on my wish list and it's a bit larger (size and frame) than this little canon.:)
 
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