- Sep 3, 2003
- Reaction score
- Gorham NH
This is an interesting debate. I can see the benefits of both options to be honest. While the Tram is a fine tradition, the gondola seems more practical to me. I tend to not see eye to eye with Sununu on much lately, but his point about the amount of people in a tram is a legitimate one, not to mention the cost difference. While it's nice to hold on to traditions, sometimes moving on to a better model just makes sense.
More hourly uphill capacity equates to more people skiing on the slope. Which is not a benefit to the skiing experience itself. A tram with two cars spreads people out. More is not necessarily better.
In manufacturing, communications, and many other kinds of operations, dividing a flow (of skiers in this case) into infrequently-processed, large batches is usually the worst way to go about it. You get lines waiting for the tram, crowds at the top as everybody puts on their skis, and everybody starting downhill at the same time.
A gondola (or, compromise, a funitel) with more smaller cars is just a smoother experience all round. Throughput will go up, but it won't feel as crowded. The line doesn't actually stand still while you're waiting, you don't have that feeling of being herded in with 80 other people, and when you reach the top anybody who was more than 10 places ahead of you in line is already halfway down the mountain and well out of your way.
Trams don't spread people out, they cause clumping.
Been there.....and then there were the days when you had to do the stairs!As a lifelong Cannon skier, I loved the Tram, past tense, because I now ski Cannon only on weekdays to avoid the crowded slopes and the Tram no longer runs on weekdays, other than an occasional Monday and the past few weeks while the Zoomer triple chair has been shut down in need of repairs.
Like Skiguy noted, we always boarded the Tram cars last so that we could be first off at the top and get ahead of the pack on the way down. Our other goal was to catch the same car for each trip up, which meant we skied top-to-bottom runs nonstop so that we could grab a couple minutes to sit on the benches at the base between runs. Back in our youth, we routinely got in the maximum number of Tram rides per day, which was typically 23 on weekdays, so about 48k verts.
Over the past few winters, I have adapted by skiing yo-yo runs up the Peabody and Cannoball quad chairs to the top (actually about 20 ft higher than the Tram), then top-to-bottom runs to the Zoomer chair, and then a lazy run back to the Peabody base for a total of 3000 ft verts. These yo-yo’s usually take me about 28 minutes, so if I were able still ski a full day, I would be close to 45k verts, almost like the old days skiing the Tram. These yo-yo runs also avoid the long flat run back to the Tram base and the removal of skis, so as a skier I do not care whether there is a Tram or a replacement gondola, as I will not be using either going forward.
This is a manufactured crisis.
Just over two years ago, Cannon's GM was going on the record that the tramway was only halfway through it's engineered lifespan and "only" needed $3 million of upgrades in the next half decade. Now suddenly taxpayers need to spend $25 million for a new lift.
This is a manufactured crisis.
Just over two years ago, Cannon's GM was going on the record that the tramway was only halfway through it's engineered lifespan and "only" needed $3 million of upgrades in the next half decade. Now suddenly taxpayers need to spend $25 million for a new lift. Remember when Cannon claimed to be self-funded?
I don't see how any politician who votes for this boondoggle can run as a "fiscal conservative."
I don't ski or live in NH, so it matters not at all to me. However, if it is true that only upgrades are needed halfway thru its "engineered lifespan", what is the State's reasoning for replacing it? I'm just curious as a retired engineer.
Large sums were being dangled from the COVID American Rescue Plan Act, so some folks figured it made sense to build a new tramway (even though the tramway was closed at the time due to COVID concerns).
Since then, it appears politicians are tripping over themselves to appropriate a large sum of money to replace a lift that would otherwise last the rest of my lifetime. $25 million for a photo opportunity just in time for the 2024 election?