Hiker rescued on Bondcliff
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Greg YEAH!
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If this guy doesn't get charged for his rescue then the system is more screwed up than everyone thought. I can't wait to read the outcome of this, if they follow up.
summitseeker
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That was an ambitious hike he had planned. I hope I can do a Zealand-Bonds traverse when I am 75 without needing a rescue.
I'm glad he's okay.
Z
I'm glad he's okay.
Z
TDawg
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"If you're gonna be dumb, ya gotta be tough."
Should I be disappointed that none of the trail conditions sites were mentioned? None of the sources listed give you very much information on what's really there - the AMC will give conditions at 4 or 5 known locations only, and the other two only give weather, not how much rotten snow or postholing will be encountered...
Tim
Tim
Raven
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Glad this guy was okay. That's ambitious.
Personally, I'm not comfortable going anywhere near that distance this time of year without overnight gear but I certainly hope to be hiking a 20 miler when I'm 75 years old.
and the 5 kids heading up Flume Slide without the right footwear (sneakers? no traction?) and gear (mentioned in the article)
It seems many of us here get out year round including winter, but maybe the "warm people" have cabin fever this year and will be/are anxious to hit the trails early.
@Tim
Good point about trail conditions websites. They could be a lot more useful to the general public this time of year as people consider such ideas as "spring break hiking trips" which doesn't sound like it may entail packing crampons, snowshoes, parkas, and balaclavas.
Personally, I'm not comfortable going anywhere near that distance this time of year without overnight gear but I certainly hope to be hiking a 20 miler when I'm 75 years old.
and the 5 kids heading up Flume Slide without the right footwear (sneakers? no traction?) and gear (mentioned in the article)
It seems many of us here get out year round including winter, but maybe the "warm people" have cabin fever this year and will be/are anxious to hit the trails early.
@Tim
Good point about trail conditions websites. They could be a lot more useful to the general public this time of year as people consider such ideas as "spring break hiking trips" which doesn't sound like it may entail packing crampons, snowshoes, parkas, and balaclavas.
I don't think an official is ever going to officially recommend random (no offense) websites on the Internet, for legal liability purposes. It makes total sense to me that they would only reference the Obs, AMC, and "local weather stations."
I had the exact same thought. Even if they don't reference a specific site, the could suggest people look at recent trail reports online.
Mike P.
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Thanks to technology, we get to read about the teens on Flume, thanks to technology, they got to call for help.
On the other hand, how many times do you think teens have jumped before they leaped before cell phones and Al Gore gave us the WWW.
It's what teens do, I seem to recall climbing the local hill that overlooked the highway and had every school's graduation class on it. To change it your school and year, it required going at night (plenty or light pollution from the highway) carrying paint & a few Green Monsters back when the age was 18. (we were close to 18 & quite clueless)
Did everyone else start as a four season hiker? I know I started as a three season hiker (did hunt in the fall and winter so had some clue on being out but not about how it changed in elevation, except on Mt. Washington where we all here about the weather there) and slowly started earlier, looked at winter in CT before jumping into NH & NY winter hiking. Hopefully they learned a lesson.
On the other hand, how many times do you think teens have jumped before they leaped before cell phones and Al Gore gave us the WWW.
It's what teens do, I seem to recall climbing the local hill that overlooked the highway and had every school's graduation class on it. To change it your school and year, it required going at night (plenty or light pollution from the highway) carrying paint & a few Green Monsters back when the age was 18. (we were close to 18 & quite clueless)
Did everyone else start as a four season hiker? I know I started as a three season hiker (did hunt in the fall and winter so had some clue on being out but not about how it changed in elevation, except on Mt. Washington where we all here about the weather there) and slowly started earlier, looked at winter in CT before jumping into NH & NY winter hiking. Hopefully they learned a lesson.
peakbagger
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The cynic is me wonders if these rescues are lining up quite well with the legislative action on rescue cards.
Quote "How do you assess a trail for spring hiking safety? "Heed weather reports; check conditions at the summits through reports provided by the Appalachian Mountain Club, local weather stations, and the Mount Washington Observatory," says Wimsatt."
Interesting. I do agree with this but IMO it is not the whole enchilada. As the Summits will always be an area of caution just below them this time a year is where conditions can be the most arduous. Yes the weather plays a big part in hiking no matter what time of year but trail conditions can be a major factor during this period of time. The lingering snowpack below treeline and above most trailheads (approximately 2000 ft. to 4000ft.) that cannot be seen from looking at the peaks from afar is what can reel in an inexperienced hiker.
Interesting. I do agree with this but IMO it is not the whole enchilada. As the Summits will always be an area of caution just below them this time a year is where conditions can be the most arduous. Yes the weather plays a big part in hiking no matter what time of year but trail conditions can be a major factor during this period of time. The lingering snowpack below treeline and above most trailheads (approximately 2000 ft. to 4000ft.) that cannot be seen from looking at the peaks from afar is what can reel in an inexperienced hiker.
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Heather&Kali
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I wanted to read whether or not he had snow shoes with him. They referenced inappropriate footwear in the second rescue but not specifically the snow shoes.
Mike Z
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I just hope I am still hiking at 75. that's if I make it to 75
peakbagger
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There was a very short interview with the hiker on WMUR. Very little info, he apparently is an experienced hiker. His statement was that the weather turned unexpectedly bad a few hours into his hike and he got wet.
His intended route on the news appears to be the AT from Franconia notch to Crawford notch. The media reports rescue from Bond so he must have taken the side trip to Guyot Shelter. The fish and game article indicated Crawford Notch to Lincoln Woods in one day which makes far more sense. Assuming he took the A to Z trail that makes for a long day even in summer.
His intended route on the news appears to be the AT from Franconia notch to Crawford notch. The media reports rescue from Bond so he must have taken the side trip to Guyot Shelter. The fish and game article indicated Crawford Notch to Lincoln Woods in one day which makes far more sense. Assuming he took the A to Z trail that makes for a long day even in summer.
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Greg YEAH!
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He must not be that experienced. Just my opinion. I went hiking on Sunday and all the weather that occurred was expected.
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