- Mar 8, 2005
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My first GPS was the original eTrex Vista purchased in 2001. Good for its time, but the current units are dramatically better in a number of ways, including reception of weak signals in poor skyview conditions. The Vista would usually lose lock when under tree cover, my 60CSx almost never loses lock.That's my problem with my older eTrex: spotty reception at best.
C denotes color. Unfortunately, Garmin's letter scheme is not consistent across all models, so one should still check their website or other reviews to get the details.Okay, good to know. I looked through some of the older posts on the GPS threads, and it sounds like not many people use anything other than the 60CSx. Doug, in an older post you did mention that the eTrex models with H (high sensitivity antenna), C (map sets) and x (memory card, I think) are okay.
I haven't used the eTrex Vista HCx. (I have an original eTrex Vista, a 60CS (non-high sensitivity), and a 60CSx (the first high sensitivity unit and still the landmark by which others are measured.)The Vista HCx fits those criteria. Do you have any experience with the newer etrex models like that? I'm looking at specs for the 60 CSx and the Vista HCx on the Garmin website, and they seem to be practically identical.
IMO, the 60CSx has no fatal flaws. The 62s appears to be slightly better, but I feel no need to rush out and upgrade my 60CSx. If I didn't have the 60CSx and wanted a new/upgrade GPS, there is a good chance that I would get the 62s.I've gone through a similar learning curve as many others here. I also started with the Vista, then the 60cs and now I use the 60csx. I am very happy with the 60csx. Now that this unit has the high sensitivity to lock and stay locked (IMO the biggest problem with the older models.) and the availability to add large amounts of map data onto the chip, I have seen no need to get a newer model. I do not feel like I'm missing anything, yet. For those that are still sorting this out and are price conscious and feel that they would like to own a 60csx, check out EBay. The 60csx can be gotten for $260 new.
Does anyone here see any drawbacks to purchasing this older model?
The differences in rated battery life are 18 vs 20 hours--not enough to be an issue, IMO. Either will run for a full day on a single set of batteries. (These numbers may include using battery-saver mode. I dis-recommend its use--it decreases the accuracy and increases the probability of losing lock.)I think the substantial advantages of the vista hcx over the 60 csx are 1) lighter and smaller and 2) longer battery life. For a hiking GPS, either of those can be important. the 60 csx may have slightly better GPS performance, but the vista hcx is good enough that it may not matter in real life situations (It won't lock in my office, but always has on the trail). I am not thrilled with the joystick interface on the vista, it works, but is awkward, and particularly tricky when biking. I also find that I regularly push buttons and the joy stick unintentionally, this doesn't matter or effect anything, but it does happen a lot.
The current MSRPs are Vista HCx: US$299.99, 60CSx: US$399.99, and the 62s: US$499.99. There is also the reduced feature 62 for US$349.99. (All MSRPs from the Garmin website.) We should also note that the 60CSx and HCx have been available for a number of years and are much more likely to be discounted, while the 62 series is new and discounts will be harder to find.If Garmin is coming out with a button interface 62, that would be worth a look. My guess is that the vista hcx will be much cheaper, in the $200 range.
The differences in rated battery life are 18 vs 20 hours--not enough to be an issue, IMO. Either will run for a full day on a single set of batteries. (These numbers may include using battery-saver mode. I dis-recommend its use--it decreases the accuracy and increases the probability of losing lock.)
You are correct. I rechecked--it appears that I incorrectly quoted the 20 hour rating from the 62s rather than the 25 hour rating for the HCx.The vista is rated at 25 hours,
The website gives the rated weight of the 62s/62st as 9.2 oz. However, I wonder about the accuracy of that number:The vista weighs 5.5 oz, and the 60 csx is 7.5, The 62st tips in at over 9 oz.
Thanks--mine weighs 7.5 oz on my digital scale. (Small variations are to be expected due to variations in the GPS, batteries, and the scale.)I have a digital scale. My 60csx weighs 7.3 oz.
* Model 60: obsolete, non-high sensitivity, no color, no sensors, no microSD cardI think the Garmin 62 comes loaded with maps. Garmin 60 didn't. It was an extra for the CD full of them.
That is a good source for free maps. However, the features shown and the quality vary--I suggest that you check each map before relying on it.When I bought my used 76CSx, the owner had bought an extra card for it and I got some free topo maps from www.gpsfiledepot.com
That site has a lot of free maps. I downloaded one of part of SoCal that I wanted, but they have many more covering much of the US. I was able to download the map, then using the Garmin software, upload the sectors I wanted onto the GPS card. Even for a novice like me, it wasn't too difficult.
For example, here is what they have for New Hampshire - http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/state/nh
The forum members were very helpful in explaining to me some basics I didn't know and couldn't figure out from the book.