RGF1
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I hope this is ok to post. It is not a Anti AMC rant or the like. It is about logging and how it is done on national forests at least in the ones I have worked on. Because of some common misconceptions
First you have to get a permit they vary in price from a few 100 bucks to thousands of dollars depending upon the size , location , type of cut and how the land will be used after the cut .
Second once you get the contract or bid. You have to work with a USFS forester . He inspects all of your equipment you have ot have spark arresters and up to date safety equipment on o your saws and personal protective gear. on all saws and other equipment. Such as a skid steer, skidder etc. You can usually only log trees thy make and you can only log when they allow you to . Usually not in the Summer.. It is lengthy and time-consuming g you have to submit All sorts of environmental impact statements or studies. Although if you work with them this can be minimized. The proposal I mention would have created XC ski trails I would have cut and removed all the stumps. ! I would have had a forester check on my progress and make sure I was not doing any thing wrong. I also would have to finish with in the time allotted .
You can only cut during certain hours so as to minimize impact on wild life though they seem to know that a cut means more sprouts coming up and easy access to food once out of reach. And linger at the edges. While you work, oddly enough.
Many pople do not know that selective timbering is A) very hard work as it is often done with a chainsaw not a machine known as a feller buncher which can strip and in short order.. B) Once timbering is done the grow back attracts moose, deer, lots of birds, hawks small rodents and more. C). a part of why selective timbering is done is because if fire suppression we over did it and now our forests are timber boxes ready to go up . So It is done in areas that are close to population, as are the prescribed burns. If done right selective timbering and prescribed burns can reduce the threat of a fire yes they do happen in the WMNF one did recently.
Not all timbering is bad and destructive. Timber is renewable resource that is managed soundly will last for many generations.
Remember when you enjoy that wood fire. It was cut by a guy like me not a big timber company they cut for board timber that is used for pulp wood, alcohol no not the stuff you drink, and of course furniture. And building supplies. I could never work on that scale. Also I sell a good amount of my wood chips to a place that burns them as biomass. Sometimes I get some one who wants them for wood pellets that are also used for heating. I feel as if I am helping the environment and reducing demand on fossil fuels. Maybe you do not like to see a area cut but you live in a house that was made out of wood. you have furniture that was made from wood . It is more than just cutting to make paper. Please think about that before you fire off a flame about logging and loggers we are the guys that clean up the mess after a storm we cut that hazardous tree near your house. We also replant as I am trying to expand in to doing I want ot start planting trees that are better suited for a residential area than some. Or even build living hedges. . We are not mad men raping the land but mostly Joe Six pack trying to earn a living. Just that we do it out doors in a often dangerous setting out of sight and mind of every one. You don’t see us, be it t in the working forest or at 2 am clearing a huge blow down near live wires. !
First you have to get a permit they vary in price from a few 100 bucks to thousands of dollars depending upon the size , location , type of cut and how the land will be used after the cut .
Second once you get the contract or bid. You have to work with a USFS forester . He inspects all of your equipment you have ot have spark arresters and up to date safety equipment on o your saws and personal protective gear. on all saws and other equipment. Such as a skid steer, skidder etc. You can usually only log trees thy make and you can only log when they allow you to . Usually not in the Summer.. It is lengthy and time-consuming g you have to submit All sorts of environmental impact statements or studies. Although if you work with them this can be minimized. The proposal I mention would have created XC ski trails I would have cut and removed all the stumps. ! I would have had a forester check on my progress and make sure I was not doing any thing wrong. I also would have to finish with in the time allotted .
You can only cut during certain hours so as to minimize impact on wild life though they seem to know that a cut means more sprouts coming up and easy access to food once out of reach. And linger at the edges. While you work, oddly enough.
Many pople do not know that selective timbering is A) very hard work as it is often done with a chainsaw not a machine known as a feller buncher which can strip and in short order.. B) Once timbering is done the grow back attracts moose, deer, lots of birds, hawks small rodents and more. C). a part of why selective timbering is done is because if fire suppression we over did it and now our forests are timber boxes ready to go up . So It is done in areas that are close to population, as are the prescribed burns. If done right selective timbering and prescribed burns can reduce the threat of a fire yes they do happen in the WMNF one did recently.
Not all timbering is bad and destructive. Timber is renewable resource that is managed soundly will last for many generations.
Remember when you enjoy that wood fire. It was cut by a guy like me not a big timber company they cut for board timber that is used for pulp wood, alcohol no not the stuff you drink, and of course furniture. And building supplies. I could never work on that scale. Also I sell a good amount of my wood chips to a place that burns them as biomass. Sometimes I get some one who wants them for wood pellets that are also used for heating. I feel as if I am helping the environment and reducing demand on fossil fuels. Maybe you do not like to see a area cut but you live in a house that was made out of wood. you have furniture that was made from wood . It is more than just cutting to make paper. Please think about that before you fire off a flame about logging and loggers we are the guys that clean up the mess after a storm we cut that hazardous tree near your house. We also replant as I am trying to expand in to doing I want ot start planting trees that are better suited for a residential area than some. Or even build living hedges. . We are not mad men raping the land but mostly Joe Six pack trying to earn a living. Just that we do it out doors in a often dangerous setting out of sight and mind of every one. You don’t see us, be it t in the working forest or at 2 am clearing a huge blow down near live wires. !