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Thread: N.E. Clean Power Connect in Maine - Should we care ?

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    Just a feeling, but all the negativity being generated by CMP lying to its customers is going to get the project canceled. No one in the state trusts them.

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    The pro power line group funded by the utility trying to build the line, CMP and Hydro Quebec just rolled out the big advertising bucks this week against the opposition. Looks like it will get nasty

    https://shameonnrcm.com/

    This ad is banner ad on the Bangor Daily News. BDN is the voice of the conservative part of Maine that tends to vote very conservative (they were a big factor in the LePage election). The trade off is most of the population in Maine is in three far more liberal counties along the maine coast. If the voters decide to care about what is going on north of them they will probably vote to stop the project.

    Natural Resource Council of Maine (NRCM) is one of the many groups opposing the project. The utility and hydro Quebec stand to make 100s of millions on the project so they will always have deeper pockets than the opposition.

    Note that if the Clean Energy Matters is clicked on it just redirects to the ad. CMP is currently universally hated in Maine so they conveniently don't happen to mention that.
    Last edited by peakbagger; 01-09-2020 at 06:54 AM.

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    The opposition to the power line turned in a claimed 75,000 signatures to get the project stopped. This should be enough to get it on the ballot as long as too many signatures are not disallowed by the state. The governor has vetoed legislative attempts at stopping the project twice. Given the number of voters in Maine versus the expected profits I expect the pro group should just propose to pay each voter to approve the project

    I expect the owners of the already permitted project in through Vermont are getting ready to blow the dust off the binders.

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    It's a different world now. You would think they learned something in NH. If anything they should of come at them stating line buriel all the way.

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    At one point the CPP project was all above ground but I think they reluctantly priced up the option to go underground under the Kennebec River Gorge with the option they would try to buy off this need by paying off stake holders. CPC had stated that the economics of total burial means the project doesn't happen due to cost (same claim by Northern Pass in NH). The permitted VT project that is on hold waiting for a buyer was proposed to be buried or under the lake. Its estimated cost was in the range that NP and CPP claimed a buried project would cost. It comes down to HQ has the power resource that is wanted by Southern New England. They have been just shopping around with what party is willing to transmit the power through Me, NH or VT for the least cost to them(HQ). NP bet $300 million they could do if for less (and failed) CPP has spent a bunch in Maine and is now at risk due to the most likely peoples veto so some other firm may need to step up. In addition to the VT project, the current operator of the DC line that runs along the VT and NH line had stepped up at one point and offered to put in a parallel DC line next to the existing one but they stepped back when the Maine project got active. Given the successful fight against NP in NH I don't see any party planning a NH project anytime soon.

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    CMP is going on with construction despite the citizens veto drive.

    https://www.newscentermaine.com/arti...5-aa01371e1314

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    The pro powerline group is challenging the petition drive signatures. The petition drive group had submitted well over the required number, the state has disallowed some but there are still well over the minimum required. The pro powerline group is arguing that there were irregularities in the petition process. My guess is if they can figure a way for it not to end up on the ballot this fall they will do it. Voter turnout is much higher on a presidential election year and if the petition gets pushed back to the next election, the powerline most likely will already be partially built.
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