- May 20, 2015
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- Ipswich, MA
Picaridin and permethrin were effective in the 100 Mile this past weekend.
Ditto while doing yard work in Thornton on Sunday, and some even got inside my headnet. ☹️They were out big time in afternoon in Gorham today (Sunday) and last Friday.
Who said the following, and when, and where? “I wish some day to make a route and from the summit let fall my spit, and this is where my route will have gone.” Probably also the origin of the “direttissima” concept.I only wear a head net when I am doing trail work because I can usually out run them. The worst thing about wearing a head net is when you forget it is on and you spit...
Excellent. There is a Mats Roing thread buried somewhere on this site about his several attempts and at least one completion of the 48 NH4s Direttissima, which also miserably fails Comici’s original concept.Emilio Comici (one of many great Italian mountaineers)
He probably said it somewhere in the Dolomites, no idea when
By his definition, the Direttissma near Pinkham Notch fails miserably...a trail paralleling a highway climbs hundreds of feet for no apparent reason.
All I can say is Thank You! In all my years why have I never discovered this stuff, life may be different now. I don't like smearing stuff on my skin, this is exactly what type of application I have always sought. Current testing very effective.And overlapping the season is the arrival of deer flies and horse flies, not to mention punkies (noseeums) on warm humid nights. For a long time I regularly used a high percentage Deet product along with maintaining near constant daytiem travel movement and a net being necessary only when stopped for rest or at camp.
Several years ago I had an interesting comparison experience when solo paddling along with a friend on an Adirondack lake one time. I was using, probably something with a modern mix of Deet, and was suffering getting eaten alive. But when I paddled over next to my friend it was as if a protective bubble shield surrounded his canoe with no black flies near him at all. He was using "Ole Tyme Woodsman", the original formula, which I remember my father used decades ago. It has a very unique odor to it that permeats the user's environment. Probably similar to what Nessmuk described in his book. I hoarded a bottle of his for years until it was gone. Turns out the original OTW manufacturer sold the company, and the new owner changed the formula due to some environmental concern, resulting in a product that did not work nearly as well. So it went into disfavor and not many people used it or learned of the original value. Later I heard the original formula returned, so I bought some. It does seem to work noticeably better than Deet or other newer products.
Hi Stew welcome to VFTT. If you are doing the traditional 4 to 4:30 AM start from Appalachia, its usually cool enough in the AM heading up Valley Way not to have any mosquito issues in the early AM, once you get to Madison Hut you are above treeline for almost all day and there is usually enough of a breeze (or wind ) to drive off any bugs. There is rather rare odd occurrence some years on windfree days, that the bugs, mostly black flies make a last gasp of being annoying immediately in the vicinity of the summits. Not enough for head nets but possible a dab of DEET. For some strange reason Mt Eisenhower has its own micro ecosystem at its summit and there are usually some large fly size insects buzzing the summit cairn, sit 20 feet away and they are not a bother. Depending on your hiking speed and if you are doing the official traverse (Appalalachia to the Highland Center via Crawford) or the AMC option of adding in Jackson and Webster, you could be caught heading down in the woods near sunset. Mosquitoes may greet you on the way down but most folks by then do not care.
BTW, I recommend the 4 AM start with minimal water and tank up at Madison Hut. The ridgeline builds clouds during the day and you have better chance of having a view from Mt Washington the early you get there. BTW if you are not familiar with the maze of trails between Appalachia and the Valley Way its best to familiarize yourself in advance as you will be starting before sunrise with headlamps and its easy to bear right under the power lines and inadvertently heading to Airline (or Kings Ravine if you are directionally challenged) instead of bearing left to head towards Valley Way. Airline adds in elevation that you need to lose to head over to Madison (although using Upper Bruin back to Valley Way cuts that gain down. Keep in mind Mt Washington summit is like quicksand, with the crowds and the lines for everything its easy to burn up an hour. You can refill water at Lake of the Crowds a lot quicker. Note that the Pine link or Daniel Webster Scout Trail start options add time to the hike for most. BTW make sure you have a way of getting back to Appalachia, several folks have assumed they could hitch and at time of the evening its not a sure thing. Some folks have ended up walking back to ther car.
Ahhh - thank you for clarifying.Okay a hut to hut traverse, the traditional one day presi traverse is coming up in couple of weekends (closest weekend to June 21st).