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    Cougar passed through ADKs

    The cougar that journeyed from South Dakota to Connecticut (where it was hit by a car) passed through the Adirondacks, state officials confirm.

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    I wonder how many people tried to tell her she was seeing a bobcat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCD View Post
    I wonder how many people tried to tell her she was seeing a bobcat?
    ...or the Golden Retriever from up the road!

    The "Beast IS in the Garden"! They had best get over it.
    One cannot deny something of that stature!
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    How many times did they said it was an excaped pet?

    How many other locations did it pass through that are still in denial?
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    Boy this cat is getting a George Washington reputaion, it slept everywhere.

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    Rumor has it that one has taken up residence outside of Hudson, NY. I haven't seen it, but heard from someone who claims to have. And I don't know why she would lie to me, and she does seem like someone who can tell the difference between a golden retriever and a mountain lion.

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    DEC is denying that it sat on the cougar report.

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    When I read this stuff about lions I can't help but to have questions and am disturbed by what appears to be a lack of forthcoming.

    It weakens my confidence in those that I should have every reason to trust and erodes my trust in authorty.
    Last edited by Little Rickie; 08-22-2011 at 11:49 AM. Reason: If it looks like BS, smells like BS and when it's feed to you it tasts like BS then it BS no matter what you're told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Rickie View Post
    When I read this stuff about lions I can't help but to have questions and am disturbed by what appears to be a lack of forthcoming.

    It weakens my confidence in those that I should have every reason to trust and erodes my trust in authorty.
    On the other hand, many people make the unjustified assumption that the reports are accurate and the officials are wrong.

    Conclusions made untrained observers are often inaccurate and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence to be trusted--such as a carcass or DNA in cases such as this.

    Sure some officials may have an agenda* or outside pressures (such as an official statement triggering various laws), but once adequate trustworthy evidence becomes available such biases have to be set aside.

    * Some of the observers may have agendas too...

    Waiting for hard evidence is the correct thing for the officials to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Rickie View Post
    When I read this stuff about lions I can't help but to have questions and am disturbed by what appears to be a lack of forthcoming.

    It weakens my confidence in those that I should have every reason to trust and erodes my trust in authorty.
    Little Rickie you really need to read the book The Beast in the Garden if you want to erode your trust in authority. It was quite the mountain lion saga and ended in tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougPaul View Post
    Sure some officials may have an agenda* or outside pressures (such as an official statement triggering various laws), Doug
    Exactly!


    Now I don't believe we have a breeding population but (obviously) we have had visits and passer throughs.

    I do believe it is just a matter of time as the forests continue to come back.

    I'm just not confident everything is being disclosed to us or in a forthright and timely manor. That bothers me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Rickie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DougPaul
    Sure some officials may have an agenda* or outside pressures (such as an official statement triggering various laws),
    Exactly!

    Now I don't believe we have a breeding population but (obviously) we have had visits and passer throughs.

    I do believe it is just a matter of time as the forests continue to come back.

    I'm just not confident everything is being disclosed to us or in a forthright and timely manor. That bothers me.
    That is a misleading partial quote.

    You are welcome to your own opinion, but in general I think the general public reports on issues such as this are less accurate than those of knowledgeable officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougPaul View Post
    That is a misleading partial quote.

    You are welcome to your own opinion, but in general I think the general public reports on issues such as this are less accurate than those of knowledgeable officials.

    Doug
    I didn't & don't have an argument with that. The general public aren't the ones I'm bothered with and it's not a matter of accuracy.

    If you accept that people in authority are always: fair, honest and forthright then that's cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Rickie View Post
    If you accept that people in authority are always: fair, honest and forthright then that's cool.
    I didn't say that either and I don't...

    What I said was:
    I think the general public reports on issues such as this are less accurate than those of knowledgeable officials.
    Doug

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    Now hold on there.. we get more UFO and Big Foot sightings than Cougar sightings; are there secret populations of aliens n Big Foot in our forests that the DEC won't admit to?... did any of em come from the Dakotas?

    Boy, let em try crossing a street in Ct, we'll get em!

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