Sorry I'm a bit slow, but I don't get the "swelling of the vegan" reference. Anyhow, I wanted to drop some weight, fast, just because. So I cut out most grains, including all my favorite: breads, noodles and alcohol. I also tried to cut out all animal products, but wasn't strictly vegan. If the family was having salad with chicken, I picked out the chicken as best I could and ate the salad. Anyhow, I dropped from 173 at the end of July to 157 this morning, not bad for a middle-aged guy at 5'10". I really liked not eating much meat, but I sure missed my bread.