What I meant when I said I couldn't tell if it was icy or not... It had snowed on saturday, meaning if I was the first person (not very likely) to go up since, it would have meant the gear was covered in a few inches of snow and maybe not so easy to spot. So... I was looking for a steep section of trail that was very icy. I have been up lonesome lake before, but never in the winter. So, I simply couldn't if it was the spot the guy lost it, or if it was just a dog fooling around off trail.