Camp USA XLA 210 Lightweight Ax

[^MtnMike^]

Anyone have any experience/comments on this ax (or lightweight axes in general):
http://www.camp-usa.com/product.aspx?product=15&cat=2

I wasn't sure if these were as sturdy as your traditional mountaineering axes (the Grivel Pamir also has my eye)

^MtnMike^

 

[sli74]

I don't know anything about this axe in particular BUT I started out with a VERY lightweight axe and I found it difficult to get it firmly planted into the slope without a lot of effort. So given my smaller frame and lower upper body strength I switched to a heavier axe and haven't had the same problems since. I used the heavier axe on Lion's Head a few days ago and I had an easier time getting it to "bite" into the ice and snow. Just MHO, for what it is worth . . .

sli74

 

[Bob]

Go with the Pamir

I really like the feel of this ax, light but not too light. It's probably only 6-7 oz. heavier than the aluminum racing axes.
I've also tried the REI Mountain ax (Abe's) and even bought a new BD, but always come back to the Pamir. EMS sells the same ax with their label on it for cheap.

 

[Peakbagr]

There are light axes and then there are light axes.

The INEXPENSIVE, light axes do require more work.
The MORE EXPENSIVE light ones usually have better alloys and all 3 working parts will be sharper, more well engineered and ergonomic.

Cheaper and lightweight = more work

Better designed and lightweight = less weight and less work but more money.

Its simplistic to generalize that all lightweight axes require more work.
Bear in mind that extra 6 to 8 ozs carried all day, swung all day, chopping all day adds up to a LOT more effort.
If all you are going to use if for is a portable handrail as most NE hikers do, with the possibility of self-arrest, then inexpensive and light will certainly do the trick.

PB

 

[^MtnMike^]

Thanks for the info

I think I'll invest in the Pamir as my first ax purchase (seems like more of a "sure thing").

^MtnMike^

 

[MadRiver]

This site has a good price on the Grivel Pamir.

click

 

[Bob]

The MORE EXPENSIVE light ones usually have better alloys and all 3 working parts will be sharper, more well engineered and ergonomic.

I have to respectfully disagree on the more expensive tools being sharper-
maybe when new, but after some abuse they all get dull.
The sharpness can easily be adjusted to individual tastes.
I don't think price has anything to do with it.