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    More trail closings?

    A new notice was put up on the US Forrest Service website yesterday.

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/white...d=FSEPRD729199

    Looks like they are closing down more of the Forrest. Unfortunately, the Exhibit A link does not seem to be working.

    Anybody have any real information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    A new notice was put up on the US Forrest Service website yesterday.

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/white...d=FSEPRD729199

    Looks like they are closing down more of the Forrest. Unfortunately, the Exhibit A link does not seem to be working.

    Anybody have any real information?
    More info here: https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/white...FV99mxWN040lx8
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    Ah. Thanks.

    " Trails would remain open, but only accessible by foot traffic in order to discourage long distance travel and to adhere to the State’s Stay Safe at Home orders. If you are able to walk to the trailhead without driving, you can access the trail."

    Interesting.

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    Trails would remain open, but only accessible by foot traffic in order to discourage long distance travel and to adhere to the State’s Stay Safe at Home orders. If you are able to walk to the trailhead without driving, you can access the trail. Parking on most roads is prohibited. Remember to pack out what you pack in.

    and

    It is prohibited to enter, go into, or be upon any area, site, or trailhead designated in
    exhibit A, when it is posted as closed to public use, for the protection of public health
    and safety.


    How does that work?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikehikeskifish View Post
    Trails would remain open, but only accessible by foot traffic in order to discourage long distance travel and to adhere to the State’s Stay Safe at Home orders. If you are able to walk to the trailhead without driving, you can access the trail. Parking on most roads is prohibited. Remember to pack out what you pack in.

    and

    It is prohibited to enter, go into, or be upon any area, site, or trailhead designated in
    exhibit A, when it is posted as closed to public use, for the protection of public health
    and safety.


    How does that work?!?

    Tim
    So, it seems, given the thumbnail I just posted, if anyone can read it, that the [I]trailheads/I] are closed, but not the trails themselves. In other words, the police are looking for cars at trailheads, not hikers on trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B the Hiker View Post
    So, it seems, given the thumbnail I just posted, if anyone can read it, that the [I]trailheads/I] are closed, but not the trails themselves. In other words, the police are looking for cars at trailheads, not hikers on trails.

    Brian
    Perhaps bushwhack from private property...like Old Osseo? (That's not to suggest to try and find it and park on private property) . Get dropped off along the Kanc and enter/exit anywhere but a trailhead.)

    I'm surprised because the governor said that private campgrounds could basically decide on who to admit but there were constitutional issues with public campgrounds...I guess they will close the state campgrounds...wasnt paying attention since I dont use them

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    Here are a few closures.

    Trailheads: Direttissima, Great Gulf Wilderness, Imp, Kilkenny Ridge, Nelson Crag, Nineteen Mile Brook, Starr King, Unknown Pond South, Wild River/Basin, York Pond East, Ammonoosuc Ravine, Beaver Brook (Kinsman), Crawford Connector, Lincoln Woods, Osceola, Welch-Dickey, Zealand Rd.

    Day use areas: Dolly Copp, Gilead, Glen Ellis, Great Gulf, Zealand picnic area.

    Dispersed Sites: Gentian Pond, Mt. Cabot Cabin, Osgood, Rattle River, Rogers Ledge, Trident Col, Unknown Pond, Valley Way, Beaver Brook, Elize Brook, Garfield, Guyot, Kinsman Pond, Liberty Springs, Trapper John, Velvet Rocks.
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    In other words - No hiking in the Whites. This is like saying it is still OK to go swimming but you are not allowed to be wet at any time while doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    In other words - No hiking in the Whites. This is like saying it is still OK to go swimming but you are not allowed to be wet at any time while doing so.
    And while at the beach don't stop moving and under no conditions are you to bask in the sun while not moving......Maybe best to keep car parked at home right now and not in the whites anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Oak View Post
    And while at the beach don't stop moving and under no conditions are you to bask in the sun while not moving......Maybe best to keep car parked at home right now and not in the whites anyways.
    Living on FL west coast now and while our beaches are still closed, they could open if the "stay moving" is enforced. Our inland hiking trailheads are also closed but we are permitted to park on the side of the road if we need to use our cars. With so much closed, and the encouragement to go out and exercise, crowds are crazy in the areas that remain open. A good plan? They are rethinking that strategy.

    Anyway, we are coming up to the Whites 4th of July week with our grandkids to hike and seeing a lot of hostility toward out-of-staters on FB because it appears many are coming to NH to recreate right now. We have one AMC hut stay and can't imagine how that will work. I fully expect that not to but AMC emails are saying they are taking reservations still and will figure it out. Stay tuned.
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    Plenty of open areas. The cog will make some money selling access permits since they have access to Jewell and Ammo trails and thus the Mt Washington concession. The RT2 trail heads are open. the Franconia Parkway lots are open. Moosilaukee is mostly open. I also got a kick at the Starr King Closure, most folks park along RT2 in the public lots and walk up to the summer trailhead. I guess if there is a gate they can lock they will. Note the Hancock Notch parking at the hairpin is not closed.

    Just going to be a mess this weekend as the crowds arrive and have to find alternative places to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peakbagger View Post
    Plenty of open areas. The cog will make some money selling access permits since they have access to Jewell and Ammo trails and thus the Mt Washington concession. The RT2 trail heads are open. the Franconia Parkway lots are open. Moosilaukee is mostly open. I also got a kick at the Starr King Closure, most folks park along RT2 in the public lots and walk up to the summer trailhead. I guess if there is a gate they can lock they will. Note the Hancock Notch parking at the hairpin is not closed.

    Just going to be a mess this weekend as the crowds arrive and have to find alternative places to go.
    So what was the goal of this order?? Take a huge piece of land where people can easily get out and socially distance, close it and funnel everyone to a handful of already hugely congested areas like Appalachia, Franconia, etc? How soon until those areas are closed because of social distancing problems and there are no options left? Seems counter productive.

    I'd also be curious to see how many out of staters who are not even aware of this show up to hike and find closure notices everywhere. That should go over well. Someone has to post pictures from Appalachia and the Highland Center today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayTrip View Post
    How soon until those areas are closed because of social distancing problems and there are no options left? Seems counter productive.
    I know you have had a conversation on another posting about staying at home--which many of us believe is needed to prevent the spread of the pandemic--so I will just answer your question and leave it at that: The goal is to leave hikers no options so they stay at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B the Hiker View Post
    I know you have had a conversation on another posting about staying at home--which many of us believe is needed to prevent the spread of the pandemic--so I will just answer your question and leave it at that: The goal is to leave hikers no options so they stay at home.
    Well plenty of people are obviously not doing that, and now they'll be crammed into a hand full of already popular lots. If that is their goal they should just close everything and be done with it instead of screwing around with all these idiotic phases of closures. This is total nonsense.
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