View Poll Results: Why do we buy fleece when wool is the better fiber?

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  • fleece is cheap

    17 28.33%
  • fleece is more available

    12 20.00%
  • fleeece is lighter & I don't care if it's cold when wet

    15 25.00%
  • I'm a victim of advertising

    4 6.67%
  • that's what everyone else is wearing so it's cool

    4 6.67%
  • wools is heavy when wet I don't care if it's warmer

    8 13.33%
  • wool isn't stylish

    2 3.33%
  • fleec is made from recycled junk, wool is a natually plentiful and renewable fiber, who cares

    6 10.00%
  • fleece feels better

    22 36.67%
  • I don't care, I wear what I like.

    29 48.33%
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Thread: Why Do We Buy Fleece

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    No fleece for me..Takes up too much room in my pack..Wool base layers...Soft shells and PrimaLoft insulation on top if needed. Shoot me, but I don't care about carbon footprints, poor sheared sheep, or recycled polyester..I wear what works for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Rickie View Post

    After shipping costs pound for pound wool fabric will continue to save energy over time, maybe for generations, burning a pound of fuel is done and over with, even if converted into fabric.
    so, in your analysis, you are including the fuel from the original petro product used to produce the fleece but you aren't including the methane produced and fuels used in the maintenance of the animal ? I like wool, and am using it more than fleece these days for "real" outings, but I don't think it's absolutely better for the environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill and Sheep View Post
    No, I don't use any down but must admit that I look longingly at those lightweight down bags every time I try to compress my -40 synthetic into my pack!
    Congratulations. That can't be easy, but I do respect the choice. Personally I'm of the "if we aren't supposed to eat them, why are they made of meat" ilk. (Sorry, just saying.) But I'd rather hang with an honest vegan than a hypocritical meat eater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip View Post
    so, in your analysis, you are including the fuel from the original petro product used to produce the fleece but you aren't including the methane produced and fuels used in the maintenance of the animal ? I like wool, and am using it more than fleece these days for "real" outings, but I don't think it's absolutely better for the environment.
    Doug Paul would be much better at those calculations than I.

    I am saying the longer the wool item is used the more it reduces it's impact thus tipping the scales in it's favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Rickie View Post

    I am saying the longer the wool item is used the more it reduces it's impact thus tipping the scales in it's favor.
    Only if it really is used longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikes4fun View Post
    No fleece for me..Takes up too much room in my pack..Wool base layers...Soft shells and PrimaLoft insulation on top if needed. Shoot me, but I don't care about carbon footprints, poor sheared sheep, or recycled polyester..I wear what works for me
    What he said....I'm pretty much with Bill on this one. Naked ducks and sheep aren't an issue for me, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill and Sheep View Post
    I'm also in the "other" camp as I'm vegan and don't use any animal products...
    Just curious...do you use shaving cream, shampoo, ibuprofen (and pretty much anything else on the shelves in aisles 1-thru-5 at your local pharmacy)? Lots of that stuff is tested on cute little fuzzy animals.

    Socks=wool. Fleece for pretty much everything else. Cheap, plentiful, and soft against the skin. Add me to the list of heathens who don't give a crap about the phrase "carbon footprint".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Just curious...do you use shaving cream, shampoo, ibuprofen (and pretty much anything else on the shelves in aisles 1-thru-5 at your local pharmacy)? Lots of that stuff is tested on cute little fuzzy animals.
    I do my best to only buy things that are marked as not tested on animals. I've actually gotten away from buying most commercial cleaning products (even the ones touted as "green") as I'm finding that a combination of Dr. Bonner's, borax and baking soda does a good job, is super cheap and is much better for the environment.

    I by no means am perfect here and don't judge others for what they do, but I try to be aware of what I consume and how it affects the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill and Sheep View Post
    I do my best to only buy things that are marked as not tested on animals. I've actually gotten away from buying most commercial cleaning products (even the ones touted as "green") as I'm finding that a combination of Dr. Bonner's, borax and baking soda does a good job, is super cheap and is much better for the environment.

    I by no means am perfect here and don't judge others for what they do, but I try to be aware of what I consume and how it affects the world.
    Seems like you do your thing in an honest and non-hypocritical way. Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    Only if it really is used longer.
    Of course! I still have a great heavy wool sweater I wore for high school ski club (1968) but I threw out my 80's polyester leasure suit. It wasn't pretty.
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    Uht Oh !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by from the linked article below
    He says wool buyers are "usually the more serious outdoor enthusiast."
    Here's a good WSJ article on the very subject !
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    What about neither?

    A long time ago I got rid of my fleece as a midlayer replacing it with a Primaloft-filled water-resistant shelled jacket.

    -Snow doesn't stick to it as readily
    -It is lighter
    -Packs smaller
    -Doesn't get as wet, especially after a retreating of DWR
    -As or more wind-resistant as fleece
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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2run View Post
    Sorry, I have to go with wool. My sister is the controller for IBEX in VT. I love there stuff.
    Would you mind asking her if they sell wool knickers?? As much as I love my kilt in winter, I really want a pair of wool knickers. Thanks.
    What do you mean he don't eat no meat? Ok, I'll do lamb.

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    I buy and wear both poly fleece and wool garments.

    The fleece is cheap and available. But I vastly prefer the wool for its warmth, feel, durability, and ... ability to absorb my plentiful sweat without becoming fragrant in a repulsive way.

    G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadRiver View Post
    Would you mind asking her if they sell wool knickers?? As much as I love my kilt in winter, I really want a pair of wool knickers. Thanks.
    http://www.ibexwear.com/shop/product...-bike-knickers
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